TMRW Golf League (TGL)

[Archie Bunker]

Although fun to watch on a winter night, I don't think the simulation is anywhere near accurate. Watched Kevin Kisner hit a shot onto a green slope that would not roll back. When they got to that spot, they couldn't place a ball there without it rolling down the hill. Had to move to another location. The greens remind me of the pooltable-like surface of a Mini Golf course. Balls just take off and roll away. Chipping from off the green seems tricky on the surface they use. And what's with Tiger spitting during the round? It's an indoor carpet. Don't know why atheletes need to spit outdoors, let alone on an indoor carpet surface. 

[iacas]

1 hour ago, Archie Bunker said:

Although fun to watch on a winter night, I don't think the simulation is anywhere near accurate. Watched Kevin Kisner hit a shot onto a green slope that would not roll back. When they got to that spot, they couldn't place a ball there without it rolling down the hill. Had to move to another location. The greens remind me of the pooltable-like surface of a Mini Golf course. Balls just take off and roll away. Chipping from off the green seems tricky on the surface they use. And what's with Tiger spitting during the round? It's an indoor carpet. Don't know why atheletes need to spit outdoors, let alone on an indoor carpet surface. 

The putting green itself is fine. It's the same green we have here. They just need to learn how to chip "into" the grain instead of just down-grain all the time. You have to hit it solid.

The launch monitors and the simulator software are garbage right now. Nobody wants to say anything bad about the LMs because Tiger is a partial owner or something. The software has 3Ws stopping in ten feet on the green, and balls bouncing all of 11 yards after flying 311 in the fairways.

[MiuraMan]

 

Are TGL simulators accurate and why are players struggling in the bunkers? Rory McIlroy has answers | Golf News and Tour Information | GolfDigest.com

 

[iacas]

10 minutes ago, MiuraMan said:

Are TGL simulators accurate and why are players struggling in the bunkers? Rory McIlroy has answers | Golf News and Tour Information | GolfDigest.com

He said:

“Yeah. So tech wise and numbers wise, look, I've had the same concerns, I guess, just from I hadn't obviously played a match,” McIlroy said Tuesday at Pebble Beach Golf Links, where he is preparing for his first PGA Tour event of the season at the AT&T Pebble Beach Pro-Am. “I went in there on Wednesday, and I brought two other launch monitors with me. I brought my GCQuad, I brought my TrackMan. Obviously, hitting balls into the screen and every number was virtually identical. That put my concerns to bed, which was really good. I hit balls in there for 90 minutes.”

I wonder, though, if the lights were different, or something like that caused some of the issues.

Again, if you tell Tiger it's 100 yards, he's gonna hit it 100 yards, not 130. Even if he's blindfolded.

[MiuraMan]

1 hour ago, iacas said:

I wonder, though, if the lights were different, or something like that caused some of the issues.

Again, if you tell Tiger it's 100 yards, he's gonna hit it 100 yards, not 130. Even if he's blindfolded.

To your second point - I think we all have seen videos of top tour players hitting balls on the range and they call out the distance before getting the number from trackman - and they are amazingly accurate. But on the course they will occasionally hit a shot longer than they intended. (the commentators invariably attribute it to nerves/wind gust/adrenaline etc.)

I think maybe the "environment" inside the venue is affecting their senses/feel.

Which brings up a question in my mind as to how important are a players senses involved in the golf shot. What percentage is "feel" versus "mechanics". In my case, anecdotally, I have a harder time getting the distance correct if I cannot see the bottom of the flag stick.

 

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Edited February 1, 2025 by MiuraMan
Add YT video of Tiger's shots on his first match.

[MiuraMan]

 

[iacas]

43 minutes ago, MiuraMan said:

I think maybe the "environment" inside the venue is affecting their senses/feel.

I do not. Tiger doesn't miss a green by 30 yards. From the fairway.

And it's not like it was one shot. Several golfers had troubles.