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So today, I'm playing with my Cousin and Uncle. I have a Ping G5 13.5 degree driver. I used to love it, but now that I've gotten much better, my swing has changed, and I really have lost so much distance playing with that high of a loft as my driver. So my cousin had a 1" cut down, Taylor Made Burner 9.5 degree stiff shaft. I really liked it a lot, I would like to get the same one. I just saw on golfsmith.com they were running a sale on Taylor Made Burner DRAW...I hit a fade, and sometimes slice it, but rarely. Rarely do I draw it, at most once a round I can hit a draw, I play more of a fade off the tee.

So I am considering getting the Burner DRAW for 199.99. BUT, I could also go with a pre-owned regular Burner. What do you guys think I should do?

Driver Ping G10 10.5*
Hybrids Ping G5 (3) 19* Bridgestone J36 (4) 22*
Irons Mizuno MP-57 5-PW
Wedges Srixon WG-504 52.08 Bridgestone WC Copper 56.13
Putter 33" Scotty Cameron Studio Select #2


Posted
get the burner. the draw verson is a closed face hook biased piece of poo. well that's my 2c anyway. as a 14 hc you should be able to hit it.

Driver: Taylormade R11 set to 8*
3 Wood: R9 15* Motore Stiff
Hybrid: 19° 909 H Voodoo
Irons: 4-PW AP2 Project X 5.5
52*, 60* Vokey SM Chrome

Putter: Odyssey XG #7

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Draw will hurt you in the long run. Go with the regular Burner. Also, check into the Tour Burners, Justin Rose tells me they are the bomb!

Driver: Tour Burner 10.5*
3 Wood: Hibore 15*
3 Hybrid: 3dx DC 20*
Irons: i5 4-PW
Gap Wedge: cg12 50*Sand Wedge: cg12 54*Putter: g5i anserIn my grom bag :)


Posted
went to the store today to get fitted for drivers with my friend he liked the burner but when he was done(im a lower handicaper than him)i stepped into the monitor with the tour burner and was consistently hitting it 240(im only 5'4" and 105) the tour burner has a lower trajectory but go to the store and buy what you hit the best

in my x72 stand bag
g10 driver 10.5
g10 3-wood 15.5
g10 3 iron hybrid
cg gold with actionlite flighted vokey spin milled oil can 56 t35 60 degree anser 2 putterz urs


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I'm 5'6" 140, so I would get it cut down an inch...but man, I can't afford the Tour Burner. I am only 16 years old, and don't have a job. I'd be scrambling up as much money as possible then hope my Dad would chip in a bit...

Driver Ping G10 10.5*
Hybrids Ping G5 (3) 19* Bridgestone J36 (4) 22*
Irons Mizuno MP-57 5-PW
Wedges Srixon WG-504 52.08 Bridgestone WC Copper 56.13
Putter 33" Scotty Cameron Studio Select #2


Posted
Get the regular burner. Im around your weight, 2 inches taller. Same age, tried the burner. Its unreal. Such a long driver. It'd be worth it. Get it used.
In My Bag

Driver: Sasquatch 460 9.5°
3 Wood: Laser 3 Wood 15°
5 Wood: r7 19° (Stiff)Irons: S58 Irons 4-PW Orange DotWedge: Harmonized 60°Wedge: Z TP 54°Putter: Tiffany 34"Balls: Pro V1 Shoes: Adidas Tour 360 IIThe Meadows Golf Coursewww.themeadowsgc.comAge: 16

Posted
then get the regular burner

in my x72 stand bag
g10 driver 10.5
g10 3-wood 15.5
g10 3 iron hybrid
cg gold with actionlite flighted vokey spin milled oil can 56 t35 60 degree anser 2 putterz urs


Posted
If you've got to get a burner then just go with the regular burner as stated by others.

If you're willing to spend $299 on a Ping G10 my friend's just about the same build as you and loves it, says he's hitting 15 yards farther than his old driver, (he did have a Burner at one point, but he switches drivers a lot), and he definitely does. He used to outdrive me by only about 10 yards or so now he's bombing them at least 20 yards past me, probably aroud 280yds.

Posted
test out the g10 i tend to hit it straighter and longer than the burners but that just ight be me

in my x72 stand bag
g10 driver 10.5
g10 3-wood 15.5
g10 3 iron hybrid
cg gold with actionlite flighted vokey spin milled oil can 56 t35 60 degree anser 2 putterz urs


Posted
Hit them all, and pick the one that works best for your swing.

Several local Muni's have had their "Demo Day" recently, so I went out and hit all the drivers I was interested in side by side. I hit them on the range, where I could see the ball flight, and I'm glad I did.

For me, it was down to the Cleveland XLS and the Tour Burner. So, I went to the next demo day a week later, and hit those drivers (and a few more) again. They also had a launch monitor set up, and I hit the Tour Burner on that because I wasn't sure about getting the 9.5 or 10.5 degree version.

I went with the Tour Burner 9.5 degree with the stiff shaft. It absolutely launches the ball.

TM Burner Tour Driver | TM R9 3W | Nike VR 21° Hyhrid | Mizuno MP-60 4-PW | Vokey Wedges 56°, 60°| Cameron Kombi Putter


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I'd advise against the draw club.

My experience with them is limited to one Cobra driver and 3-Wood I had a few years back. I consistenly faded the ball and wanted to hit more draw.

At the same time I took a couple of lessons with the primary focus being on ballstriking. Guess what....a natrual draw developed and the results weren't pretty with those offset woods. I had to hit a lot of long irons off the tee until I could afford to get some conventional woods.

Older golfers or infrequent golfers...or anyone else who always hits a stong fade/slice and has no plans to unlearn it.....okay....buy the draw woods. But the majority of players will benefit from taking the time to straighten it out a bit with their swing. Sure makes playing loads more fun.
909D Comp 9.5* (house MATRIX OZIK XCON-6)
Burner Superfast 3 & 5 woods (house MATRIX OZIK XCON-4.8)
G15 Hybrid 23* (AWT shaft)
G5 5 iron-PW-46*, UW-50*, SW-54 & LW-58 (AWT shaft)
Studio Select Newport 2 Mid SlantGrips: PING cords & Golf Pride New Decade Multi-Coumpound Bag: C-130...

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I'd advise against the draw club.

I agree with your statement in regards to OFFSET woods. If the club is draw bias weighted it is not near as big of issue. I talked about this with my instructor and told me he sees a lot of draw bias drivers on tour. He should know he played at the PGA last year.

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The Burner already has a 1* closed face, so that should be good for you. I naturally hit a big draw with my driver, so I went with the TP Burner which has a 1* open face. You would be sorry in a year or less if you bought the draw Burner IMO.
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Woods: cleveland.gif Launcher FL 13˚
Hybrids: titleist.gif909H 19˚, 24˚Irons: mizuno.gif MP-53  5-P Wedges:  mizuno.gif MP-T11 50, 54 titleist.gifBlack Nickel 58.08 Putter: cleveland.gifClassic Black Platinum #2 Ball: titleist.gif ProV1x -  Hole-in-one 4/17/09 www.colonialcountryclub.org

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I think I'm going to just save up another hundred dollars and get the Ping G10.

Driver Ping G10 10.5*
Hybrids Ping G5 (3) 19* Bridgestone J36 (4) 22*
Irons Mizuno MP-57 5-PW
Wedges Srixon WG-504 52.08 Bridgestone WC Copper 56.13
Putter 33" Scotty Cameron Studio Select #2


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