Flex change when tip trimming a V2 driver shaft?

[Stacey_E]

I was wondering how much would the flex of a UST ProForce V2 65 gram stiff shaft change with a 1" tip trim. According to their website, you can trim these shafts from the tip to fit fairway woods. Their specs are 1" tip trim for 3 woods and 2" for 5 & 7 woods.

So If you have one of these in your driver, and it is but cut to a finished length, would tip cutting the shaft have as much of an effect on flex as it would with say, a true temper steel shaft?

Would love some input from anybody that knows how that works with graphite and this shaft specifically. Thanks in advance for the help!

[basesloaded190]

Well tip cutting anything will automatically make it more stiff. You will change the kick-point in the shaft, but usuing a driver shaft for a fairwood is very common.
So you will have youself a stiffer shaft that will most likely deliver you a lower ball flight with the higher kick point.

[Stacey_E]

Well tip cutting anything will automatically make it more stiff. You will change the kick-point in the shaft, but usuing a driver shaft for a fairwood is very common.

All of that makes perfect sense except the kickpoint. It seems to me (and someone can correct me) that if a kick point was at a certain point, that point would be lower on the shaft it that shaft was tip cut. And conversely that point would raise toward the butt with a butt cut.

Thanks for the input.

[walfice]

Yes thats right stacey_e, trimming from the tip would lower the kick point, not sure how much it would affect the ball flight though.

[Petden]

I believe, though, that the lower ball flight would be attributed to the shaft becoming stiffer.

[Stacey_E]

I believe, though, that the lower ball flight would be attributed to the shaft becoming stiffer.

I believe that is right. I've even heard and read that flex point has little effect if you don't have a late wrist release. Even if you held your wrist angle late, moving the flex point an inch would seem to me to have far less effect on ball flight than the stiffening of the shaft that would occur.

I started the thread for opinions on just how stiff that would make a shaft. I suppose there are quantitative ways to measure the change (shaft frequency?). From what I'm hearing so far, a 1" trim on this graphite shaft would have a great deal of stiffening effect. The thing that does interest and confuse me is this. If the same shaft is designed to be tip trimmed one inch for a 3 wood, how does that not make a 3 wood built to spec with the same shaft in the X-Stiff (or whatever) range? I think I explained my question? Let me try again. If I built a 3 wood with the V2 65 stiff I should tip trim 1" and but trim to length, say 43". So there I have a stiff flex 3 wood. But if I tip trim that same shaft 1" and put it in a driver with a finished length of 44" would that somehow make it play "stiffer"? If anything it seems that the shaft being longer would make the shaft more whippy. But I suppose this has a lot to do with head weight? Thanks again for all the input so far, and the input to come.

[basesloaded190]

Why don't you just Butt cut the shafts and not worry about changing the flex and the kick point? You would basically have the exact same shaft as you did before but a little shorter. You wouldn't be changing much of the shaft if you were to do that.

[DaveLeeNC]

I believe that is right. I've even heard and read that flex point has little effect if you don't have a late wrist release. Even if you held your wrist angle late, moving the flex point an inch would seem to me to have far less effect on ball flight than the stiffening of the shaft that would occur.

When you start tip trimming for different length clubs, it isn't the length that is most important here. In most cases the shorter club has a heavier head (a typical 3w weighs 5 to 15 grams more than a typical driver) - a constant swingweight thing (or constant MOI).

If you shorten your driver and don't increase the head weight, you'll drop the SW significantly. But in that case I would not do any tip trimming to maintain flex. dave

[hyde]

old thread i know, but my question relates to this topic :P. im considering a ping g10 9degree with a ust v2 stiff shaft .. i believe the standard length of the shaft in this club is 46 and the shaft is rated from 95-105 ss. my ss is around 110-115 average. would tip trimming this shaft result in it playing like an xstiff if after getting this driver i feel its to soft?