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Hi,

After playing golf (or at least trying to ) for 2 years I think I'm ready to buy my first driver. Obviously I'm looking for maximum forgiveness and straight ballflights. Workability and distance are not that imported to me (yet). I've read Golf Digest's Hot List for 2009. It's a great source of info, but it's not always clear to me what level of playing is needed for a certain driver. So what is a good beginners driver? I want to buy a good driver that I can use for the next couple of years. I was thinking about the TM Burner 09, the Cleveland Launcher or the Ping G10. Personally I think the Titleist 909D2 is the most beautifull, but I heared that's not a good driver for a high handicapper like me.
I'm going to try a couple of drivers at the store and that should probably clear things up for me. However, I would like to hear your opinion also.
I already have a TM Burner (07) 3-W and when I have a good day I can hit it pretty well (for a beginner). I do have a tendency to hook/draw the ball when I'm having a bad day.

Thanks in advance,

KN

Gear
Driver: G10 10,5° - regular flex
3-Wood: Burner Steel 15°
Hybrids: Benross V5 Escape 20°/3, 23°/4
Irons: Benross VX Combo OS 5i-SWGap Wedge: CG12 52° chrome finishLob Wedge: SM60.08 oil can finishPutter: White Hot XG #5AccessoriesStand Bag: GROMCart Bag: RC08-1Trolley: Big...

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From my experience, Mid-high handicappers/novice golfers who switch to Ping improve immediately. The G10 is a great club, also comes in a Draw bias if needed. Its great to look at and it bombs the ball. Check out Ping.com they have a little G10 minisite.

http://www.pingpowerof10.com/

:taylormade: R9 9.5d with Fujikura Motore 65 Stiff
ss-07 13deg 3 wood Graphite Design Purple Ice 85-S
Md-17 1i/4w UST V2 Tour Hybrid X
A3 Pro 20 Tour Prototype Mitsubishi Javln X
MP 57 4,5,6 Project X 6.5 MP 67 7,8,9 Project X 6.5 Vokey 200 series 48d Project X satin 6.5/ Vokey 09SMTC 54.11...


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I recently switched to a Ping G10 and this club is just ridiculous. It goes LONG and straight right down the pipe. The ball seems to carry forever and I get pretty good roll out. Most people say it's hard to work it but I can tend to put a baby draw or fade on it when I need to. Excellent club, get it!

- Tour Issue Taylormade R7 Superquad TP Matrix Ozik Xcon 5 X-stiff
- Nike Dymo 3 Wood UST Axivcore Stiff
- Nike Dymo 5 Wood UST Axivcore Stiff- Nike Blades 3-PW S300- Nike SV Tour 50* 54* 58* S400- Titleist Scotty Cameron Newport Beach- Nike Tour D


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I have never tried the Ping G10. I have heard good things about it but never actually picked it up. I currently have a Taylormade R7 superquad and I find it has the straightest drives I have ever hit. Also, you said that you tend to hit hooks or draws on a bad day, well the superquad is easily adjustable (weights) to straighten that out. hope this helps.

Driver: Callaway Big Bertha Diablo 9º
2 Hybrid: Callaway Big Bertha Heavenwood
Irons: Nike Slingshot OSS 6-3 iron
          Taylormade Tour Preferred PW-7 iron
Wedges: Cleveland CG14 50º, 54º
              Taylormade RAC 58º
Putter: Ping Darby 32" shaft


 


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Unless you really want to spend extra money.... I would look at the 2008' hot list or even 2007' and pick a driver off it. Why pay $300-500 when you can pay $100-200 for every bit as good of a product.

Some really good and cheap forgiving driver I would start with...
Adams XTD A3 OS
Nike Sumo SQ
Nike Sumo SQ (square)
Callaway Hyper X
Callaway FT-i
Cleveland HiBore XLS
Cobra Speed LD
Snake Eyes Python
Taylormade Burner

as far as where to buy...

http://www.rockbottomgolf.com/

http://callawaygolfpreowned.com/default.aspx

http://www.3balls.com/

or as a last resort... Golfsmith, Golf Galaxy or a local store with a sale.
My Clubs: Callaway FT-i Tour LCG 9.5° w/ Matrix Ozik Xcon 6 stiff; Sonartec GS Tour 14° w/ Graphite Design Red Ice 70 stiff; Adams Idea Pro 2h(18°) & 3h(20°) w/ Aldila VS Proto 80 stiff; Adams Idea Pro Forged 4-PW w/ TT Black Gold stiff; Cleveland CG12 DSG RTG 52°-10° & 58°-10°; Odyssey...

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I just recentley bought a callaway Ft-i, and i find it to be quite straight and really forgiving, and i got a brand new one for half price because golftown was clearing out the 08 stock. Iam coming from a 983K, and i thought that i had learned to hit that thing pretty good over the years, but the FT-i was automatically easy to hit.

Ft-i 10dg
200 steel 3 wood 15dg, 22dg rescue dual
edge cft 19dg hybrid
G2 (4-pw)
spin milled 52,58dg (oil can)white hot tour #2hawk


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I hit the g10. good driver. But for the price and how I hit the XLS just as well I went with the HiBore. If you want straight and don't mind sound you can pick up up a nike sumo squared. It has a very different sound but I have hurd good things about how straight it is. And right now dicks has the deal that if you buy one you get a squared wood free. Just a thought. But if your down to those choices, my pick would be the G10. Maybe the Luncher. I guess it's my bias as I never really liked TM. But in all fairness they do make good clubs as well. I would say find a place that will tape clubs for you and hit them or that has demos.

Bag: Ogio
Driver: Cleveland HiBore XLS 9.5 gold stiff
3W: Pro Select 15*
Irons: Pro Select 3-PW
Wedge:Adams Tom Watson set GW, SW, LWPutter: Cleveland VP 1balls: E6+ or Srixonshoes: Adidas powerband"Stop looking at my ears and play!"Home course. Antler Creek; tees; Black 77.5/150, Gold...


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  Big_M said:
Unless you really want to spend extra money.... I would look at the 2008' hot list or even 2007' and pick a driver off it. Why pay $300-500 when you can pay $100-200 for every bit as good of a product.

2nd this recommendation. The '07 4950 model sells for about $100. Probably the easiest driver I have ever hit.

Callaway X-Hot Tour GD Tour AD DI-7 Sonartec SS-3.5 16* FTP-X Adams Idea Super S 19* Matrix Kujoh
Bridgestone J33B DG X100 Mizuno MP 53*6 Mizuno MP 56*10 WRX Sq. Gr. GTO Ported
Mizuno MP 60*6 WRX Sq. Gr. GTO Ported Odyssey White Hot Tour #5 Callaway Tourix

GHIN: 10436305


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  Big_M said:
Unless you really want to spend extra money.... I would look at the 2008' hot list or even 2007' and pick a driver off it. Why pay $300-500 when you can pay $100-200 for every bit as good of a product.

THIS IS THE BEST ADVICE YOU ARE GOING TO GET!!! I would do EXACTLY this!

Another great store is www.GreatGolfDeals.com

:taylormade: R9 9.5d with Fujikura Motore 65 Stiff
ss-07 13deg 3 wood Graphite Design Purple Ice 85-S
Md-17 1i/4w UST V2 Tour Hybrid X
A3 Pro 20 Tour Prototype Mitsubishi Javln X
MP 57 4,5,6 Project X 6.5 MP 67 7,8,9 Project X 6.5 Vokey 200 series 48d Project X satin 6.5/ Vokey 09SMTC 54.11...


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I just got a new Callaway Diablo on Ebay for like 245. (Instead of 299) I am pretty much in the same boat as you and I think it's great so far. I went and hit a handful of different clubs and just seemed to connect the best with this one. I can get a solid hit on it consistently. Just need to fix my swing so I don't slice as much, but that's not the clubs issue at all. I'd at least try it out.
In the Bag:

Driver: Diablo Driver
Hybrids: Baffler Pro 16* -- Baffler DWS 20*
Irons: R7 Irons 4-PW, GWWedges: Oversize Burner SWPutter: Rossa Suzuka cgb

Posted
try the new Nike Dymo. extremely hot face, plus they make a square version which will help you keep it straight. Also, the Nike Sumo SQ, Callaway Diablo, Cleveland Monster, and the Callaway FT-i

Posted
Square head drivers are said to be the straightest drivers available. More specificlly the Callaway FT-IQ is supposed the longest in this category. The FT-I, though is supposed to be decent for distance, and ver good for accuracy. Try the square heads before you buy them, they have a diffent feeling than traditional heads.

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Here's some advice I give everyone who is going to buy new clubs. Try as many as you can in you're price range and pick the one that you feel the most confident in. Remember what feels right to me may not feel right to you.

You said you have a tendency to draw the ball so I would definately take that into consideration. I just bought a Ping Rapture last weekend. I also tried the burner, hi bore, G5, G10, R9, Rapture 2, and it just happened to be the one that I liked the Rapture the best because it was simple and easy to hit, plus I got a hell of a deal because it was last years model. So if I were you I definately wouldn't count out last years model or looking at used clubs. Places like Golf Smith and those stores with have plenty of used clubs to try.

Personally, I would steer clear of titleist and alot of the TP drivers because they can be hard hit well (well - straight and long). I would recommend the the G5, the Rapture, or Taylormade Burner as a good starter driver because they're all pretty forgiving.

Bottomline though, decide your price and good try every driver ya can til you find that fits you.

Happy Hunting

Clubs:
Driver: Ping Rapture 10.5 degree, Stiff Flex shaft
Fairway Wood: Ping Rapture 17* - Stiff Shaft
Hybrids: Callaway Heaven Wood 20* Firm Flex
Irons: Titleist 704 CB (Forged) (4-PW), Dynamic Gold S300 ShaftsWedges: Titleist Vokey 52 and 58 degreePutter: Odessy White Hot XG Model #1Bag: Ping HooferBa...


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Thanks for the advice y'all. I went to check out a new store in my neighbourhood. Because it was a new store they didn't have any "old" drivers so I bought a 2009. The straightest one was the Callaway FT-IQ but I thought it was a little too expensive. It was a tough decision between the Ping G10 and the Callaway Diablo Big Bertha but I bought the G10. All there's left to do now for me is practice, practice, practice, ... and hopefully I can break 100 for the first time by the end of the season.

Ciao,

KN
Gear
Driver: G10 10,5° - regular flex
3-Wood: Burner Steel 15°
Hybrids: Benross V5 Escape 20°/3, 23°/4
Irons: Benross VX Combo OS 5i-SWGap Wedge: CG12 52° chrome finishLob Wedge: SM60.08 oil can finishPutter: White Hot XG #5AccessoriesStand Bag: GROMCart Bag: RC08-1Trolley: Big...

Posted
you should try out a Ben Hogan Big Ben CS3 they are great and pretty much being thrown away at the moment.

In My Colonial Cart Bag
Driver: Big Ben CS3 9.5 Neutral
Woods: F60 3&5
Irons: BH5 Offset Model
Wedges: Sureout WedgesPutter: Karsten Zing USABalls: Z


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