MP52s??

[Alohaed]

Any one own these? Has anyone hit these, know anything about them. I was at tha range today hitting balls, then browsed their pro shop. The pro let me hit some some balls with the MP58s. First time I ever hit forged irons. Wow!!!! Fantastic feel. Yet didn't do to well. I was told they aren't very forgiving. Then on the way home I realized I should have tried the 52s, which I will do next weeked. They are beautiful clubs. Anyone out there have any experience with them? How forgiving are they? Compared to the 58s and the MX300s? Even to the AP1s? Although I might stick with forged from now on.

[ET-Taylor]

The Ap1s are cast

[Alohaed]

I know the AP1s are cast, and want to go forged. I was wondering how the MP52s compare to them.

[ET-Taylor]

im guessing the AP2 is the direct equivalent to the MP52 the AP1 is more forgiving

[pherg]

The 52s are super sweet when you middle them, but the middle can be a tad tricky to find. Unless you're a 30 handicapper because you have 50 putts a round I'd recommend the MX 200, still forged but much more forgiving. I'm seriously considering moving out to them myself. We're coming into winter here and with early tee times, my timing isn't always the best.

The Mizuno guide suggests MP 58 for 0 - 8 handicaps, MP 52 (0-10hcp), MX 300 (0- 12 hcp) and the MX 200 (0-20 hcp). There's also the new MX 1000 (8-24 hcp) and the older MX 100 (12-24 hcp) but I don't think they're forged. Handicap isn't always the best way to gauge whether a club is right for a player (Some 20 handicappers are great iron strikers but have no short game or putting skill) but it's better than no gauge at all. Hope this helps.

[t2490jh]

I just went through a very selective process the last three weeks, I hit the MP52. 58, 57, 62, 68, and MX300 from Mizuno. The AP2 and CB 710's from Titleist. The TP Preferred Tour cast and forged models. My current club is the McGregor M675 muscle back forged. I currenlty play to a 7.

First off, every club I hit was longer than what I currently have, especially on the short irons.

Mizuno- I hit all of the MP's very well in the short irons (5-pw). MP52 was the shortest in the Mizuno line. The dispersion was greatest with the 58. I think the titanium weight changed my swing path just enough I was getting alot of right to left movement. MP58 was the next shortest club. The MP52, 58, and MX300 were a little bottom heavy to me. My mishits were greater in the long irons with the 52 and 58. The overall best feeling clubs were the 57 and 62. MX300 would also be great club for a 10-15 handicapper. I liked the MX300 over the MP52 and MP58.

Titleist - The CB 710 lost out when I went to the long irons. Very clickie for a forged. The AP2's had the most distance of any club I hit. The dispersion was greater than the Mizuno's but not bad. The forgiveness factor was better than Mizuno. This is an very nice club for the game improvement 15+ handicapper. However, it was a little more difficult to control. Feel was good, but not as good as Mizuno.

Taylormade. : The forged TP didn't make it more than 5 shots. Hated the club. The cast TP Tour Preferred was very nice. Great feel for a cast. Very good distance on the long irons. Very good forgiveness on the mishits.

I picked the MP57 for the following reasons: combination of feel, distance, control and cost. Would have picked the MP62's if the cost were reasonable. Forgiveness was better with the AP2 and TP Tour cast. However, the Mizuno's in the 50 series weren't bad in category.

[chilly]

I play MX 23s, and just picked up a set of 52s so I believe I can comment. I haven't hit the MX300s, but everything I hear is they're similar to the 23s, although possibly a bit more workable.

The 23s are definitely a bit more forgiving then the 52s. Shots off the toe are better, and they really seem better on thin shots. I'm working on my swing, which results in some slightly thinned shots. These shots would settle down with the 23s, but I end up hitting these well over the green with the 52s. Not something wrong with the club, just a fact that they're not a game improvement club. That said, they still are quite forgiving. I hit them the same trajectory as the 23s, and same distance although they're weaker lofted. The feel on the 52s is definitely better, they're more pure feeling on good shots. I don't try to work the ball at all, but can hit a cut if I'm stuck behind a tree or other obstacle, and the 52 is more workable, as you'd probably expect.

I prefer the smaller size of the 52s, just has a better look and makes me concentrate on the swing a bit more. I haven't really used short irons around the green, but the smaller size of the 52 makes me want to learn bump and runs with a 7 iron, I've messed around with it a bit and for me the 52 short irons are definitely easier to use around the green.

[GaijinGolfer]

Ive hit the MP-52s. They are fairly forgiving but will penalize you on your mishits. They are the most forgiving clubs in Mizuno's MP line but I wouldnt call them all that forgiving. MP does stand for, "Mizuno Professional" afterall.
If you want forged and you want forgivness, Id suggest trying Mizuno MX-200s or MX-300s. Both are forged and are more forgiving than the MP-52s.

[clubchamp]

I play MX 23s, and just picked up a set of 52s so I believe I can comment. I haven't hit the MX300s, but everything I hear is they're similar to the 23s, although possibly a bit more workable.

I can't say enough about the mx-23s I had them for years. I used them till I reached about a 5 handicap and switched to the 57s. The 23s in my opinion are the best entry into forged irons and won't cause frustration. Infact if I ever put a 3i in my bag it's always mx-23 one and it feels just as pure as the 57s when you hit it good.

[msd3075]

When I purchased my MP57's about a year and a half ago, I tried basically every iron Mizuno had in their "MP" line at the time (52, 57, 62, 67). I tried the MP67 (pure blade) just for the fun of it but didn't really look at them seriously since I knew I didn't want anything that unforgiving. I felt like I could notice a difference in the forgivability between the 62 and the 52/57 and liked that little bit extra I got with the 52/57. Between those two, I felt like I hit the 52 noticably higher (both had TT S300 shafts) and lost distance on longer irons because of the higher launch/spin. The guy that fitted me said the extra weight on the bottom of the MP52 helped get the ball up in the air quicker, but since I hit the ball high to begin with I'd be better suited for the MP57.

Taking all this into account, I think at your handicap you should obviously stay away from blades (MP67/68), but to tell you the truth I don't think you can really go wrong with any iron in Mizuno's line other than that (MP and MX included). People on here tend to overthink the club-fitting process and get obsessed with the "perfect club for you swing". What's to say a year from now you have dropped your handicap from a 30 down into the teens and then a year after that you are a single digit? Do you want to have to buy new irons to fit your "skill level" every year? In the end, buy what you like and don't overthink the process.

[drawshot]

I just wrote a really detailed post and it got erased....as it is getting late I'll summarize.

I am an 18 index and just bought the 52s. 300s were next on my list (and almost tied). I preferred smaller head and overall feel of the 52s. Forgiveness on 52s is a TAD bit less, but nothing significant in my opinion. I almost went a mixed set 4-6 (300) and 7-W (52) but changed my mind when I tested the 5i side by side and preferred the 52. Couldn't hit 4i all that well, so going with 3/4 hybrids. Also hit the MP Fli-Hi 4i. I can't understate how good this club is. Almost prefer to a hybrid. I was amazed at the loft and distance I was getting.

Whatever you do, see if you can try a fully fitted club (shaft and lie). Shaft makes a HUGE difference in a club - don't underestimate that. The nice thing about Mizunos is the fitting club that is simply amazing. It makes things a lot easier. Take 4 good swings and it recommends 3 shafts. I went through process of elimination and was fortunate to be able to try a fully fitted 6i 52 vs. 300. Next on my list was the AP1 - although the flight path is fairly high in stock shaft. I didn't bother to demo other shafts because I really liked the smaller head of the 52s. Next on list would probably be the MX200 followed by the G15 (although I never hit the G15 on the range).

Back to the question - can't go wrong with the 52s but demo all you can and start weeding stuff out. It is a great time to be buying clubs - lots of quality ones out there right now!

Good Luck!