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Hello everyone, i'm new to golf and golf "technology" and was wondering if you could help me pick out a GPS.....I have been intrigued by the Callaway Upro......and have read nothing but great things about it.....anyone with any other suggestions would be greatly appreciated.....the primary use of the GPS is will be when I am at an unfamiliar course, or when i'm walking my home course....any comments or suggestions would be greatly appreciated!
Driver: DIABLO EDGE
Hybrid: 5DX
Irons: X-22 Irons 4-PW
Wedge: X-22 51* AW, CG15 54*/58*
Putter: Method 001Ball: Penta TP

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Anyone???
Driver: DIABLO EDGE
Hybrid: 5DX
Irons: X-22 Irons 4-PW
Wedge: X-22 51* AW, CG15 54*/58*
Putter: Method 001Ball: Penta TP

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How much do you have to spend?

The uPro is good if you have some money. If you spend the $400 and then get the rebate, it's only $300. But the price for your first 10 courses is like $80 or something. That's crazy. If you only play 3-5 courses, it's not bad. But if you play new courses all the time and are somewhat strapped on a budget, I'd steer clear of this.

The skycaddie SG2.5 is a good unit from what I've heard. $200 plus $30 annually gets you every course in your state. But you don't get the flyover views like you do with the uPro. On the other hand, mapping your own courses is easier with the skycaddie and they've been doing this longer than anyone.

I don't have any experienced opinions on the golf buddy, but some folks seem to like those. I think those are the big 3 if you don't have an iphone or some other phone that has an app you can use.

What's in my Sun Mountain C-130 bag:

Driver - Taylormade Superfast 2.0 TP 10.5
3 Wood - Taylormade Burner 15* REAX
Hybrid - Adams Idea Pro 18* GD YSQ-HL

Irons - Callaway X-18 4-PW

GW - Cleveland 588 51*

SW - Cleveland CG 12 56*

LW - Cleveland CG15 60*

Putter - Cameron Studio Style Newport 2

Bushnell Medalist rangefinder


Posted
im in the same boat as you bro. I wanna get one as well but there are so many and all range from reading front center and back. And some that read beyond that. From bunker locations to water hazards in the middle. I find those are for serious golfers and i'm not one of them. I on the other hand prefer a unit that can read me what I want. Front center and back. If your like me, the Izzo Golf GPS unit and bushnell neo are pretty well rated golf gps units and all are pretty reasonably priced. GL

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Posted
I have the 2.5 and am looking to replace it, with one that offers more information, probably a GolfBuddy

Posted
I have the 2.5 and LOVE it!!!

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Irons: Ping G5 4-P
Wedges: Vokey Spin Milled 56*, Cleveland bent to 49*
Putter: Scotty Cameron California Monterey
Ball: Srizon Z-Star Yellow
Range: SkyCaddie 2.5


Posted
How much do you have to spend?

Thanks for all the help guys! I actually have a good amount of money to spend on one (the wife gave me the ok heehee) and I am seriously leaning towards the upro....I have heard nothing but excellent things about it and I don't play more than 4-5 courses so the huge fees for the "pro" courses doesn't bother me.....anyone else with any input?

Driver: DIABLO EDGE
Hybrid: 5DX
Irons: X-22 Irons 4-PW
Wedge: X-22 51* AW, CG15 54*/58*
Putter: Method 001Ball: Penta TP

Posted
I'm with Verizon and just got their golf gps on my phone, going to go try it out tomorrow. Will let you know how it is.

Posted
Do you have a laser? I have a skycaddie for the last couple years. Have had a bushnell laser for many many more years. I hardly ever use the skycaddie. I think it was a total waste of money. The laser is much better.
Driver: Cobra ZL 3 Wood: Cleveland Launcher War Club: Burner Titanium Raylor 21degree Hybrid: Bobby Jones 24 4-PW: Ping i3's Wedges:Mizuno MP T-10 White Satin 52, 56, 60 Putter: 15 year old Odyssey Rossi Blade. Ball: Bridgestone e5 Swing Oil: Grey Goose, always in the bag.

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Do you have a laser? I have a skycaddie for the last couple years. Have had a bushnell laser for many many more years. I hardly ever use the skycaddie. I think it was a total waste of money. The laser is much better.

What are the benefits of using a laser. Like I said in my original post i'm new to this laser/gps technology that's why I ask. Can the laser finder tell me the distance to the nearest hazard etc.....I thought that the laser finder could only give you the distance to the flag am i incorrect?

Driver: DIABLO EDGE
Hybrid: 5DX
Irons: X-22 Irons 4-PW
Wedge: X-22 51* AW, CG15 54*/58*
Putter: Method 001Ball: Penta TP

Posted
I had the uPro for 2 seasons and wasn't that impressed.

I have the $40 smartphone app, Golf Logix now and I LOVE IT. It tracks ALL your stats, TRACKS YOUR SHOT DISTANCES AND CLUB SELECTION(very important in my mind) and gives pretty accurate numbers.

In my opinion, it works better than a $400 unit, tracks more stats and your yardages for $40 per year. Can't beat it.

The Laser will track anything you can see ... so if you can see the bunker or water, then you can laser find it ... laser doesn't work for doglegs or hidden greens.


Edit* One downside I've found with the GPS being on your phone is that you now have incoming calls and texts that you'll see ... normally when I golf, I put the phone away so I'm not bothered.

2010 Staff Bag
2010 S2 Driver - Stiff - (-.5")
2010 S2 3 Wood - Stiff
2010 Baffler TWS Hybrids 3 & 4
2010 MP-58 5-PW Irons - (+.5") 2010 MP-T10 Black Satin 52° - 56° - 60° - (+.5") 2009 Black Carbon 2 Putter Winn Grip e6Photos of my bag Golf Galaxy Wisconsin Amateur Tour PlayerGolf...


Posted
I had the uPro for 2 seasons and wasn't that impressed.

One thing I forgot to put into my original post is that I currently have "GolfTi" the 40.00 app on my iphone and while I like it I don't want to have to track EVERY shot and what club I used and where it went etc.....I just want to know the yardages to the next hazard or green and that's it....

Driver: DIABLO EDGE
Hybrid: 5DX
Irons: X-22 Irons 4-PW
Wedge: X-22 51* AW, CG15 54*/58*
Putter: Method 001Ball: Penta TP

Posted
But the price for your first 10 courses is like $80 or something. That's crazy. If you only play 3-5 courses, it's not bad. But if you play new courses all the time and are somewhat strapped on a budget, I'd steer clear of this.

You get 20 courses for $80 ($4 per course). Ten courses is $60. The more you buy the less each course costs. I just played my first round with a uPro and it worked quite well. I just wish it could keep score for me as well.


Posted
What are the benefits of using a laser. Like I said in my original post i'm new to this laser/gps technology that's why I ask. Can the laser finder tell me the distance to the nearest hazard etc.....I thought that the laser finder could only give you the distance to the flag am i incorrect?

Yes you are incorrect. Point it at any object and if will give you distance. It gives exact distance to flag, where gps gives front back and middle.

Driver: Cobra ZL 3 Wood: Cleveland Launcher War Club: Burner Titanium Raylor 21degree Hybrid: Bobby Jones 24 4-PW: Ping i3's Wedges:Mizuno MP T-10 White Satin 52, 56, 60 Putter: 15 year old Odyssey Rossi Blade. Ball: Bridgestone e5 Swing Oil: Grey Goose, always in the bag.

Posted
Yes you are incorrect. Point it at any object and if will give you distance. It gives exact distance to flag, where gps gives front back and middle.

By incorrect I'm assuming you meant correct lol Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Driver: DIABLO EDGE
Hybrid: 5DX
Irons: X-22 Irons 4-PW
Wedge: X-22 51* AW, CG15 54*/58*
Putter: Method 001Ball: Penta TP

Posted
I have the Garmin Approach. I like it a lot. It comes preloaded with 20,000 courses and you can update it every quarter. Has a great color screen and is easy to use. On my home course it is very accurate. I'll step right on the 100, 150 and/or 200 marker (or any other marker) and it's right on within a yard. It takes two AA bateries which last a few rounds. Very durable. Plus, when you change the batteries in the middle of a round you would think you would have to start over again but it brings you right back to same hole you were on.
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3WD: Steelhead
3&4 Hybrid
5-PW AP2 PX 6.0 Rifle 52-8, 56-8, 60-8 Black Series #6 (34inches)

Posted
I have the Garmin Approach. I like it a lot. It comes preloaded with 20,000 courses and you can update it every quarter. Has a great color screen and is easy to use. On my home course it is very accurate. I'll step right on the 100, 150 and/or 200 marker (or any other marker) and it's right on within a yard. It takes two AA bateries which last a few rounds. Very durable. Plus, when you change the batteries in the middle of a round you would think you would have to start over again but it brings you right back to same hole you were on.

Very cool MCC i'll have to look into that one...thanks for the suggestion!

Driver: DIABLO EDGE
Hybrid: 5DX
Irons: X-22 Irons 4-PW
Wedge: X-22 51* AW, CG15 54*/58*
Putter: Method 001Ball: Penta TP

Posted
I have been very happy with my Skycaddie SG4. The way it hooks to the PC is "lacking" at best, but as for the functionality it works great. And with the new upgrade it tracks score/putts/fairways etc.

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