Jump to content
Note: This thread is 5318 days old. We appreciate that you found this thread instead of starting a new one, but if you plan to post here please make sure it's still relevant. If not, please start a new topic. Thank you!

Recommended Posts

  • Administrator


List what's wrong or just plain bad about this video. Be as thorough as you want.

And no, you don't get any credit for pointing out that Arnold Palmer - used as a "good" example - shifted his "front spine angle" 400%. That's too easy.

Erik J. Barzeski —  I knock a ball. It goes in a gopher hole. 🏌🏼‍♂️
Director of Instruction Golf Evolution • Owner, The Sand Trap .com • AuthorLowest Score Wins
Golf Digest "Best Young Teachers in America" 2016-17 & "Best in State" 2017-20 • WNY Section PGA Teacher of the Year 2019 :edel: :true_linkswear:

Check Out: New Topics | TST Blog | Golf Terms | Instructional Content | Analyzr | LSW | Instructional Droplets

Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

One thing that I noticed (perhaps trivial) is the overestimation of spine angle change for Tiger, and the underestimation of spine angle for their ideal player shown later in the video. I'm sure this is not what you were looking for.

In the Bag: TaylorMade R11 TP - TaylorMade R7 TP TS - Cleveland Halo - TM TP 2009 3-PW - Vokey SM 52 - Vokey SM 60 - Rife Barbados CS - ProV1x 


On the Computer:  Analyzr Pro 
 


The guy in the video is basically arguing against a hip slide which is bullshit because even the person in the video he showed bumps his hips.

Essentially the old adage of "keep your head down" is true but not in the way that many think.

When you address the ball you are leaning forward. When you impact the ball you are not leaning forward as much as you are tilting backwards. The reason for this is pretty simple. See this video:



If you look at the hips in the backswing the hips go from level to left low and right high. This happens when the left knee bends and right knee straightens. Don't believe me, stand up in front of a mirror and make a backswing with a bent left knee and a straight right leg and notice the change in your hips.

Every good golfer in history, to my knowledge anyways, has the exact opposite situation at impact. The left hip is now high and the right hip is now low the right knee is now bent and left leg is now straight obviously.

The million dollar move which most people never figure out is the bump.

The purpose of the bump is to tilt the spine to prepare the golfer to move to the ball in such a way that will get the left hip high and the right hip low. This is the mechanism that clears the body for full steam ahead knock the shit out of it. If you don't have his move you are going to have all types of problems.

Certified G.O.L.F. Machine Addict


First of all, Arnold Palmer was not known as a very accurate player, was he? If that is true, it seems ludacris to use him as a model. Not only that, but this guy is lying to himself if he thinks Arnold doesn't have a hip bump in his downswing, he clearly does.

How are you supposed to have something solid to rotate around on the downswing if you don't shift your weight to the left(unless your weight is already on your left side, ala stack and tilt)? Every golfer in this video bumps their hips to some degree.

His model golfer clearly has a hip bump as well, and the line he has drawn as his model golfers spine angle isn't even accurate, it's off by a few degrees. Both things remove more credibility from his theory.

His notion that modern golfers are taught to keep their weight behind the ball is also erronous, it's simply not true. Sure, many instructors advocate more weight on the right side at setup with the dirver, but at impact, they still advocate weight on the left side.

He also talks about how starting the downswing with a hip bump increases the spine angle, which then leads to an open clubface. While this may be true, most pro golfers, Tiger included, swing in to out as it is, they can still hit their push-draw with that position.

His Tiger vs. Iron Byron comparison is laughable.

 - Joel

TM M3 10.5 | TM M3 17 | Adams A12 3-4 hybrid | Mizuno JPX 919 Tour 5-PW

Vokey 50/54/60 | Odyssey Stroke Lab 7s | Bridgestone Tour B XS

Home Courses - Willow Run & Bakker Crossing

 

Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

Axis tilt is necessary for an inside path to the ball.

Equipment, Setup, Finish, Balance, and Relax. All equal in importance and all dependent on each other. They are the cornerstones of a good golf swing.


Besides his pronunciation, the production, the smoking driver head, or claiming Palmer was so great for winning so much when Tiger has won twice as many majors?

I can't say for sure, but what I saw was essentially it said to turn your hips, as opposed to sliding them, which is BS. Iron Byron is a machine, it doesn't have hips. It's all arm swing. Tiger is a man, not a machine, and he has to clear his hips or he's going to block it or come way over it, or all sorts of terrible stuff. When you turn your hips instead of slide them, you basically torque your body, lose balance, and have to compensate to get to the ball.

So they guy is saying that moving the hips is either a) bad or b) bad without moving the head along with it? Also, a lot of the lines he drew seemed sort of arbitrary. He drew some through the head and some next the the head, likely to exaggerate to prove his point.

In my bag:

Driver: Titleist TSi3 | 15º 3-Wood: Ping G410 | 17º 2-Hybrid: Ping G410 | 19º 3-Iron: TaylorMade GAPR Lo |4-PW Irons: Nike VR Pro Combo | 54º SW, 60º LW: Titleist Vokey SM8 | Putter: Odyssey Toulon Las Vegas H7

Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

  • Administrator

I'm somewhat disappointed that nobody's used the term "impact fix" yet.

The thing that annoyed me the most - perhaps - was his bizarre assertion that when you push the hips forward the clubface contorts into some bizarre 30° open or closed position. The guy needs to read up on TGM 7-8.

Erik J. Barzeski —  I knock a ball. It goes in a gopher hole. 🏌🏼‍♂️
Director of Instruction Golf Evolution • Owner, The Sand Trap .com • AuthorLowest Score Wins
Golf Digest "Best Young Teachers in America" 2016-17 & "Best in State" 2017-20 • WNY Section PGA Teacher of the Year 2019 :edel: :true_linkswear:

Check Out: New Topics | TST Blog | Golf Terms | Instructional Content | Analyzr | LSW | Instructional Droplets

Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

What a pointless video...wheres the evidence that their guy smoked his drive 300+ yards? Utter BS, 5 mins of my life im not getting back thats for sure...

What's in my Titleist RC10 Cart Bag? Driver: Nike Sasquatch Sumo Square 5900 10.5* Aldila VS Proto 65 stiff shaft
3 Wood: Nike SQ Mach Speed 15* Hybrid: Nike 5H Ignite 23*
Irons: Nike Ignite 4i-Sw Wedges: Vokey Design 252*-08 / Oil Can Spin Milled 60*-08
Putter: Odyssey White Ice 2Ball CS 34"...


I'm somewhat disappointed that nobody's used the term "impact fix" yet.

The guy needs to watch Mike Austin swing a driver, and then try to figure out how he hit a 515 yard drive at age 64 in the U.S. National Seniors Open in 1974


Note: This thread is 5318 days old. We appreciate that you found this thread instead of starting a new one, but if you plan to post here please make sure it's still relevant. If not, please start a new topic. Thank you!

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now


×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

Welcome to TST! Signing up is free, and you'll see fewer ads and can talk with fellow golf enthusiasts! By using TST, you agree to our Terms of Use, our Privacy Policy, and our Guidelines.

The popup will be closed in 10 seconds...