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I have a very flat swing am 6'1" with a wrist to floor of 38 and was fitted with a -2.5. I went to the range and played about 5 rounds and have completely reworked my swing and have since gotten it to a 0 or a -0.5. I feel the best when I swing a 1/2 inch longer club. I am going to buy a new set of irons and am looking into forged due to the fact that over time I can have the lie changed. My query is that I am a 26 handicap can I play forged clubs. I used to play alot but put it away for about 5 years and am coming back to golf. When I used to play I was down to about a 10 handicap so I am confident that I will get it down there again I hope. I am the kind of guy that will buy a set and play them till they die. This is why I was looking into forged so that they can change with me. I am looking at the Cobra S2 forged, Ping G-15, and Mizuno's. The only Mizuno's that I can stand to look at is the MX-300's. Thanks, and any other forged to look at?

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Driver L5V 10.5*
Fairway Wood S2 15*
Hybrid 20* IronwoodIrons Eye 2 BeCu 4-PW (have the 2 and 3)Wedges C3 56* and 60*Putter Zing iWiShoe Air Tour Saddle Ball e7


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You can play whatever you want...the question is can you play them well :) I'm about the same handicap as you right now with goals of getting a lot better in the next couple years and I play a forged club. I have Ping G5's but couldn't get used to the offset and recently switched to the Mizuno MX-200's. I love these clubs. Almost as forgiving as the G5's but with less offset and a more traditional appearance...plus a great feel. I took the blue stickers off and now they are a nice, clean looking forged club with lots of forgiveness. The MX-300 are nice but more of a players club with a smaller head. I looked at them and decided the MX-200 would be a better choice for my game and I'm glad I went with them.

I tried the Cobra S2 forged at a recent demo day and I have to say, i did not find them easy to hit. I think these are definitely more of a players club and they were just too much club my for me.

Driver- titleist.gif 909D2 9.5* 
Fairway Wood- titleist.gif 909F2 15.5* w/ Diamana Blue stiff
Hybrid- titleist.gif 909H 19* 
Irons- mizuno.gifMX-200 4-PW, vokey.gifSM 50.8 bent to 51*, SM 56.11, and TVD 60*M
Putter- cameron.gif Newport 2.5 


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I don't know too much about today's modern irons, but if you use to be a 10 and can hit the balls on the screws, go forged.
I came off the bench last year after an 8 year layoff and while not back to full form, I feel I'm on a good path. Sure I have my off times, but a lot of it is like "riding a bike". It's all about refining it now.

Go forged, smear the butter on the clubface and get the love of the game back.

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MX-200 or MX-300 are great GI forged irons, but you don't need forged to have the lie adjusted. PINGS are highly adjustable for lie angle, and the G15s you mentioned are nice cast irons, or even the PING G5s. Those can be had for $399 new and are stellar clubs.

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Didn't you have a thread about a week ago asking whether you should buy irons or spend money on lessons?

The logic of buying forged irons so that you can change them as your swing improves does not make sense to me.

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You can change the lie of a cast club as long as it is not extreme, so I wouldn't be dead set on forged. And this is coming from a guy who loves Mizuno irons. I hear nothing but good things about the Ping irons so don't count them out because they are cast. You may want to also look into Adams and Nike, they have some cheaper stuff that is nice.

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That was going to be my ? about the 200's they seem like the right club but the blue sticker would have to go! How did it come off?

In My GT Stand Bag

Driver L5V 10.5*
Fairway Wood S2 15*
Hybrid 20* IronwoodIrons Eye 2 BeCu 4-PW (have the 2 and 3)Wedges C3 56* and 60*Putter Zing iWiShoe Air Tour Saddle Ball e7


Posted

Easy to get them off. Used a tee to pry an edge up, pulled them off then cleaned off the adhesive left behind with a little acetone. There is no evidence of them anymore and they look so much better without them IMO.

Here is a crappy iPhone pic showing them side by side:

Driver- titleist.gif 909D2 9.5* 
Fairway Wood- titleist.gif 909F2 15.5* w/ Diamana Blue stiff
Hybrid- titleist.gif 909H 19* 
Irons- mizuno.gifMX-200 4-PW, vokey.gifSM 50.8 bent to 51*, SM 56.11, and TVD 60*M
Putter- cameron.gif Newport 2.5 


Posted
Defintly an improvement from factory. Thanks for the input.

In My GT Stand Bag

Driver L5V 10.5*
Fairway Wood S2 15*
Hybrid 20* IronwoodIrons Eye 2 BeCu 4-PW (have the 2 and 3)Wedges C3 56* and 60*Putter Zing iWiShoe Air Tour Saddle Ball e7


Posted
Easy to get them off. Used a tee to pry an edge up, pulled them off then cleaned off the adhesive left behind with a little acetone. There is no evidence of them anymore and they look so much better without them IMO.

Those look great! nice clubs


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Removing the blue stickers on the 200s is definetly an improvement in the looks of those clubs. If you end up looking at Mizunos, you should try the MX-300s out. Ive hit both the 200s and 300s and I like the 300s a lot more. They arent quite as forgiving as the 200s, but I feel that the 300s have more feel. The 200s kind of perform the same even if you are hitting the ball all over the clubface, but with the 300s you know instantly when you mishit the ball because the shot doesnt feel the same and the ball doesnt come off the clubface with as much energy.

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Woods: :mizuno: JPX 850 9.5*, :mizuno: JPX 850 15*, :mizuno: JPX-850 19*, :mizuno: JPX Fli-Hi #4, :mizuno: JPX 800 Pro 5-PW, :mizuno: MP T-4 50-06, 54-09 58-10, :cleveland: Smart Square Blade and :bridgestone: B330-S


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I tried both the MX-200 and MX-300, looking for a more forgiving set to go with my Titleist Tour Model Forged Blades. Visually, little if any discernable difference at address, and the MX-200s will let you know if you've mishit, with a smaller penalty in performance. They both felt good at the range, but I slightly preferred the MX-200, and the MX-300 cost more to boot. As the 2010 Golf Digest Hotlist stated "consumers might not be clear as to what this club does that the MX-200 doesn't." The MX-300 took home the silver award this year, while the MX-200 took home gold during the 2009 Hotlist.

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I have a very flat swing am 6'1" with a wrist to floor of 38 and was fitted with a -2.5. I went to the range and played about 5 rounds and have completely reworked my swing and have since gotten it to a 0 or a -0.5. I feel the best when I swing a 1/2 inch longer club. I am going to buy a new set of irons and am looking into forged due to the fact that over time I can have the lie changed. My query is that I am a 26 handicap can I play forged clubs. I used to play alot but put it away for about 5 years and am coming back to golf. When I used to play I was down to about a 10 handicap so I am confident that I will get it down there again I hope. I am the kind of guy that will buy a set and play them till they die. This is why I was looking into forged so that they can change with me. I am looking at the Cobra S2 forged, Ping G-15, and Mizuno's. The only Mizuno's that I can stand to look at is the MX-300's. Thanks, and any other forged to look at?

The biggest advantage of forged over cast is that a forged iron can be bent more than 2-3 degrees. Cast irons can't be bent more than 3 degrees and some will say that 3 degrees is pushing it.

I'd suggest a combo set, going to blades at 7 or 8i and a set that you will grow into. IMO you will get bored with the Mizuno MX series. I'm a Mizuno fan, but won't say anything due to your comment about Mizuno--and that is fine, I have the same problem with Callaway. I also prefer forged to cast. So to summarize, look for a combo set of forged irons that you will grow into.

Posted
The G line from Ping is very good. It is cast, not forged. You can send G's back to ping and have them lie adjusted for about the same price as taking them to a local shop. If you are dead set on forged, get the most forgiving club you can find.

Posted
Well with the forged irons, what youre really talking about is playing an iron with less offset and not as much forgivness. If you plan to work and improve i dont think you will have a problem with a players club, as you will grow into them after time. But if youre a guy that just loves to enjoy the odd round here and there, perhaps that type of iron is not for you.
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Well with the forged irons, what youre really talking about is playing an iron with less offset and not as much forgivness. If you plan to work and improve i dont think you will have a problem with a players club, as you will grow into them after time. But if youre a guy that just loves to enjoy the odd round here and there, perhaps that type of iron is not for you.

He can get forged GI irons from Mizuno. The MX series should work well for him.


Posted
Mizuno Comp EZ are forged irons that my son now plays. Other Mizuno forged irons are available also

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Titleist 910 F15 & 21 degree fairway wood
Titleist 910 hybrid 24 degree
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I'm in a similar boat, I'm comming from titleist DTR's a cavity back iron and played the Miz mx20's and they were easier to hit, more solid and more fun. I'm looking at mx 200, 300 but today am getting fitted and looking at Wishon 560, and also KZG Evolutions. If your going to get them made check these out as they may be what your looking for. As much as I would like to have the 300 or even mp52's I'm more confident with a bigger head. It allows me to concentrate more on my swing versus agonizing about hitting in the middle of the sweet spot. I also found I could fade the mx 20's very controlably the first time I used them. I am also getting tired on the offset I have in my Titleists.

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