Counterfeit Pro v1 sales on Ebay

[cougar978]

I just had an epiphany regarding purchasing balls off Ebay - there are some sellers out there that are hawking new Pro v1x's for $35/dozen or thereabouts. That sounds all well and good, but the more I got to thinking about it, it didn't add up. The most discount that I'm aware of on legit Pro v1's is 25%, and that's for logo overrun balls (which are just as good as the new ones). Anyway, the two major golf stores I use are sold out of the logo balls and I don't want to pay $45/dozen for balls, so I order three boxes of 'new' pro v1's off ebay for $105. This was on 6/26, and the product has yet to arrive. I contacted the seller several times, and got a response back stating that he would either cancel/refund my order or I could have an extra box for free (which basically wipes out all his profit margin if he's legit). I checked his most recent feedback, and people were complaining that the balls were fake, etc, so I contacted my credit card and had them put the whole charge in dispute so I think everything should be cool on my end.

Now, I was curious as to who the guy is that was behind all these 'firesale' pro v1 prices, so I checked out his name and company name (don't want to give it out in public), and he has a facebook account with his real name on it and his location (Orange county, FL, in the Orlando area).

I decided to do a quick criminal records check from the Orange County circuit court, and the guy has a rap sheet at least 2-3 pages long, including several felony raps for burglary, weapons possession, and check fraud. I hope he gets nailed again over this - my only words to him would be 'don't drop the soap'.

[case31]

Sorry you had to go through that. If you do want to find a good deal on golf balls, and if there is a Dick's Sporting Goods in your area, they sell pro-v1 x-outs for $29.99/dozen. I'm sure you can find them at other sporting goods stores too, but up here in Indianapolis, they are always in stock for that price.

[Chillmoon91]

Did you not check his customer feedback before ordering? if so that was kind of careless man

[kpaulhus]

Man o man....what has the internet come to? You cant even scam someone on eBay without them somehow being able to access your criminal records.....


LOL J/K man.

It is crazy though.....just type your name in google. If it isnt common like Jane Smith or Michael Williams then you can find a bunch of stuff about yourself on the web.


Ive never heard of anyone being able to make fake ProV's so thats interesting.

[kpaulhus]

Sorry you had to go through that. If you do want to find a good deal on golf balls, and if there is a Dick's Sporting Goods in your area, they sell pro-v1 x-outs for $29.99/dozen. I'm sure you can find them at other sporting goods stores too, but up here in Indianapolis, they are always in stock for that price.

This is the route I always go.

[cougar978]

This is the route I always go.

I usually get the logo overruns at Golf Galaxy but apparently everyone and their brother knows they sell them now so they're always out of stock.

[case31]

I usually get the logo overruns at Golf Galaxy but apparently everyone and their brother knows they sell them now so they're always out of stock.

Yeah, whenever golf galaxy has a good deal on something, it always sells out in minutes. As far as the x-outs go, they seem to be in stock at any Dick's I go to. I guess people don't want to have a big "X-OUT" on their balls.

That's what she said.

[he4dhuntr]

That sucks. I hope your dispute goes well and painlessly. You definitely always want to check a user's feedback before buying from them though. I never buy off someone with less than a 98/99% positive feedback and that has a good amount of items sold. Reading through the negative feedback is always a good idea too. Hope all goes well!

Cheers,

[jamo]

With Ebay especially, always apply the general rule of thumb: it it seems to good to be true, it probably is.

[deronsizemore]

Did you not check his customer feedback before ordering? if so that was kind of careless man

Was thinking the same thing. Looking at the feedback after you've been burned defeats the purpose of feedback.

[Leftygolfer]

I buy the pro v1 practice (well used too, I just hunt now) from tgw and they are sometimes on sale for 25.

That does suck though.

[Colinb913]

How do you fake a ball? I am just guessing, scratching the logo off a shitty ball, and putting proV on the side?

[kennay92]

How do you fake a ball? I am just guessing, scratching the logo off a shitty ball, and putting proV on the side?

refinishing a spalding ball with pro v1 logo, or just a factory on the blackmarket straight up makes a whole fake pro v1 and sells them i suppose.

[Tomboys]

I called Titleist years ago when I first saw ProV1 X-OUT and PRACTICE marked balls. If I remember correctly, the difference was that the X-OUT balls didn't meet manufacturing standards whereas the PRACTICE balls didn't meet cosmetic standards. I asked if that meant that the X-OUT would perform differently or not as well, the answer I got was "maybe". So, since then, I've only purchased regular or practice balls.

Although, I'm thinking I should try the X-OUT. I figure with my crooked swing + a crooked ball, the net result may be a straight shot =).

[motteler621]

yea I dont think the Titleist XOUT ones at dicks say Xout on them. I think they just have a line through the Titleist logo or something like that.

[Nike Markiie]

buy from Ebay stores only.....