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As I play my first few rounds of golf(I'm brand new to the game, only played 4 rounds of 9, and so far I love it!), I realize that I hit my irons well, and am developing a great short game, now I'm trying to find my feet putting but that's expected of course. My real problem is my larger clubs, my driver and 3 wood always curve right, and I'm lucky to even make contact with my hybrid irons. At a stage this early in the game I've come to the conclusion it can't be poor club construction, and was wondering if any of the veterans on this forum could offer me a pointer.

In my Walter Hagen T3 stand bag

Driver- Walter Hagen T3 10.5   3-Wood- Walter Hagen T3   Hybrids- Walter Hagen T3 3i-5i   Irons- Walter Hagen T3 6-PW   Wedge- Walter Hagen T3 56*  Putter- Walter Hagen T3   Ball-   RAW Distance Straight


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Focus on a good ball contact with a slower swingspeed.

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If you have not already done so, you might consider a lesson or two.

The first few rounds of golf you play sets your initial swing, so it appears you may be engraining defective moves right now. A pro could take a look at your swing, give you basic corrections, and then some things to practice to improve your long game. A pro could do more in 10 minutes than a week of thread replies could.

Try to find a pro that uses videotape. A videocam can play back portions of your swing in slo-mo to show you what changes you need. Some sports training cams even have a split-screen to show you your swing before and after.

Ask for a video summary of your lesson - you can load it on an iPod and play it at the range so you know what to practice.

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Do you have any idea how much lessons could cost? Also how could I go about finding a local pro? Is there a list somewhere? Or will I have to do some digging to find a pro? My location is Detroit if that helps, thanks for helping, golf is a very confusing game as a beginner and it's very deceiving, just watching the pros it looks kinda like just walking up to the ball and crushing it, but reality is a slap in the face, however I love the game so far, even with my pitiful rounds.

In my Walter Hagen T3 stand bag

Driver- Walter Hagen T3 10.5   3-Wood- Walter Hagen T3   Hybrids- Walter Hagen T3 3i-5i   Irons- Walter Hagen T3 6-PW   Wedge- Walter Hagen T3 56*  Putter- Walter Hagen T3   Ball-   RAW Distance Straight


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Lessons range around 50-75 dollars per hour.
Teaching pros can be found at any local golf course as well as almost all driving ranges.
Best of luck!

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Yeah, take lessons. The money you spend on them will be worth 100x more to you than the money you'll spend playing rounds of golf.

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9.5 Degree Taylormade Burner Superfast Adilla Voodoo shaft
3 Wood: Cleveland Launcher 15 degree Adilla Voodoo shaft
Irons 3-SW: Callaway X-14 Steelhead

Lob wedge: Cleveland 60 degree

Putter: Ping Anser Karsten


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You might consider a group lesson.

I started with a series of group lessons that were offered by a local pro. These were six, once-weekly lessons, for about $150. Each lesson only had about 4-6 people, so there was plenty of time for individual attention. Each week focused on one or two details, and even provided us with take-home materials so we could remember what was taught when we practiced on our own.

I don't think we ever hit a ball until week 3 or 4. We first went through grip, and posture, and fundamentals of an in-to-out swing, before the pro allowed us to hit balls.

HiBore 10.5 driver
GT-500 3- and 5-woods
Bazooka JMax 4 Iron Wood
Big Bertha 2008 irons (4 and 5 i-brids, 6i-9i,PW)
Tom Watson 56 SW Two-Ball putter


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    • Nah, man. People have been testing clubs like this for decades at this point. Even 35 years. @M2R, are you AskGolfNut? If you're not, you seem to have fully bought into the cult or something. So many links to so many videos… Here's an issue, too: - A drop of 0.06 is a drop with a 90 MPH 7I having a ball speed of 117 and dropping it to 111.6, which is going to be nearly 15 yards, which is far more than what a "3% distance loss" indicates (and is even more than a 4.6% distance loss). - You're okay using a percentage with small numbers and saying "they're close" and "1.3 to 1.24 is only 4.6%," but then you excuse the massive 53% difference that going from 3% to 4.6% represents. That's a hell of an error! - That guy in the Elite video is swinging his 7I at 70 MPH. C'mon. My 5' tall daughter swings hers faster than that.
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