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which should i get. I hit 3 wood sweet as a nut most of the time and at my course a bad lie is very rare because the rough is really short. the greens are quite small compared to some courses. I had a 19º Taylormade burner hybrid before and i hated it and the one i have got just now is a stiff so it isn't right for me so im looking for some advice

maybe look at getting a SW?
PW-60* is a big gap.

My Clubs
Driver - LV4 10* R flex
Wood - sam snead persimmon 2 wood (for windy days)
Hybrid burner tour launch 20* stiff flex.
Irons - Tour Mode 3i,4i stiffIrons - FP's 5-PW R-flexWedge - spin milled 54.14Wedge - spin milled 60.07Putter - Victoria Lowest round 2010: 79 (par 70)Latest rounds at...


Personally, I don't do well with woods in any sort of taller grass so a hybrid is an easy choice, for me. Versatility is the key..you can play them off the fairway and out of the rough and never have to think about it. The biggest thing to keep in mind is that a hybrid is not "wood" but an iron so play it like one.

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  James_Black said:
maybe look at getting a SW?

i have a 50º i did have a 56º but never needed it that much as im very crafty with my 60º and can hit most types of chips with it


Which club do you hit better with? That's the important thing. Why carry a club if you never use it because you don't have any confidence in it.

  ET-Taylor said:
i have a 50º i did have a 56º but never needed it that much as im very crafty with my 60º and can hit most types of chips with it

but for full shots you should have a 54/56 degree wedge.

you've got space for one.

My Clubs
Driver - LV4 10* R flex
Wood - sam snead persimmon 2 wood (for windy days)
Hybrid burner tour launch 20* stiff flex.
Irons - Tour Mode 3i,4i stiffIrons - FP's 5-PW R-flexWedge - spin milled 54.14Wedge - spin milled 60.07Putter - Victoria Lowest round 2010: 79 (par 70)Latest rounds at...


  James_Black said:
but for full shots you should have a 54/56 degree wedge.

Other than balls and a putter, there are no "shoulds" in filling a golf bag.

Mizuno MP600 driver, Cleveland '09 Launcher 3-wood, Callaway FTiz 18 degree hybrid, Cleveland TA1 3-9, Scratch SS8620 47, 53, 58, Cleveland Classic 2 mid-mallet, Bridgestone B330S, Sun Mountain four5.


  James_Black said:
but for full shots you should have a 54/56 degree wedge.

possibly but im ripping out my 19º hybrid because its too stiff and im not sure what to replace it with and i dont want to reshaft as the head is 5 years old and want a new club


19" Hybrid is easier for me to hit. Therefore, I would choose hybrid over 5 wood. However, the choice is all yours.

In my Grom bag:

Driver: 909D2 10.5"
Irons: AP1 4-9
3 Wood: 909F2 15.5"Hybrid: 909H 19"Wedges: spin milled: PW, 52", 58", 62"Putter: California Coronado 33"Ball: Pro v1x


Don't change your wedge setup, adding another wedge would be dumb.

I would sugest a hybrid, since the shaft on hybrids are shoter they will be easyer to hit out of the rough. Or you could do what I did for a little while. Get a 5 wood, cut the shaft so it's better to hit out of the rough. But 90% of the time, a hybrid will still be better to hit. A 5 wood will always go longer if they are the same lofts. Depending on the shaft the a 5 wood will also usually go higher aswell.

go to a demo day and try different things out and see how you like each one.

Driver: 909D3 8.5* Diamana White Board X
3 Wood: MP 630 15* GRAFALLOY PROLAUNCH RED X
Hybrid: 909H 19* "Real" VooDoo X
3 - P: MP-68 KBS Tour Black Nickel X
56* 10 Wedge Vr60* 06 Wedge: VrPutter: Custom Made.Golf Ball: TOUR B330SI am the greatest, I said that even before I knew I was....


Don't change your wedge setup, adding another wedge would be dumb.

adding a SW is dumb?

In all fairness us higher handicappers would be a lot lower if our wedge game was better, not if we can try launch a 5 wood going for a par 5 in 2. he can still get a new hybrid/wood for his set.

My Clubs
Driver - LV4 10* R flex
Wood - sam snead persimmon 2 wood (for windy days)
Hybrid burner tour launch 20* stiff flex.
Irons - Tour Mode 3i,4i stiffIrons - FP's 5-PW R-flexWedge - spin milled 54.14Wedge - spin milled 60.07Putter - Victoria Lowest round 2010: 79 (par 70)Latest rounds at...


I would try both clubs out I dont like hybrids and carry a 5 wood instead and find this alot easier to hit than any hybrid I have had and I have had a few

I went through this same exact decision at the beginning of the summer. I was filling a gap between my 3W and 3I. I decided to go with the hybrid for the versatility. Off the fairway or tee, I didn't see much of a difference. Out of the nasty Bermuda rough we have here in the South, the hybrid was the clear winner. I went with the Cobra Baffler Rail H and couldn't be happier. I like the rails to help in the rough and was more comfortable with the club off the fairway then I was with the TM Raylor. After about 10 rounds with the club (I avg. 2-5 swings per round with this club), I couldn't be happier. Fills the gap between between my 3W and 3I perfectly and is great in any lie.

What's in my Titleist Lightweight Cart Bag that sits on my Clic Gear 3.0 Push Cart:
Driver TaylorMade Tour Burner 10.5° Fujikura SuperFast Stiff
3W TaylorMade Burner 15° TM REAX Stiff
Hybrid Cobra Baffler Rail H 19° Fujikura Motore Stiff
Irons TaylorMade  R7 3-PWWedges Cleveland CG14 52°.10 and...


I would go with the 19*H. I had a 5w and couldn't hit it very well. The hybrid was a lot better for me out of the rough and the fairway.

  Paradox said:
Personally, I don't do well with woods in any sort of taller grass so a hybrid is an easy choice, for me. Versatility is the key..you can play them off the fairway and out of the rough and never have to think about it. The biggest thing to keep in mind is that a hybrid is not "wood" but an iron so play it like one.

From "tall" grass I'd probably take my lumps and hit more a 5-iron or less. With a hybrid or 5-wood out of the rough, I tend to over swing and hit a big hook or undercut it and hit a popup to the right.

BTW - other than shaft length, I hit my 5-wood and 19.5* hybrid with essentially the same swing - my 2-iron swing.

Mizuno MP600 driver, Cleveland '09 Launcher 3-wood, Callaway FTiz 18 degree hybrid, Cleveland TA1 3-9, Scratch SS8620 47, 53, 58, Cleveland Classic 2 mid-mallet, Bridgestone B330S, Sun Mountain four5.


  James_Black said:
In all fairness us higher handicappers would be a lot lower if our wedge game was better, not if we can try launch a 5 wood going for a par 5 in 2.

not really. he should practice his ballstriking. i need to practice my ballstriking. pretty much everybody i see on a golf course should practice their ballstriking. how about hitting the 5 wood off the deck? and why would adding a wedge make his wedge game better? he still needs to hit it...

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One thing to consider is how far you hit the ball overall. I stayed with a 5W because it goes about 15 yards longer than the 19* to 21* hybrids. This is probably related to a slightly longer shaft.

It depends on your distance needs, and of course, which one you hit best.

Last week I compared my 5W vs. a 19* TM Raylor on a launch monitor. Raylor went about 10 yds. less, but was much straighter. (5W seems to have a draw face, and I end up near the green in the left rough if I'm not careful)

So, I'm monitoring my "discretionary income" for a possible October upgrade

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Driver:  :touredge: EXS 10.5°, weights neutral   ||  FWs:  :callaway: Rogue 4W + 7W
Hybrid:  :callaway: Big Bertha OS 4H at 22°  ||  Irons:  :callaway: Mavrik MAX 5i-PW
Wedges:  :callaway: MD3: 48°, 54°... MD4: 58° ||  Putter:image.png.b6c3447dddf0df25e482bf21abf775ae.pngInertial NM SL-583F, 34"  
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  sean_miller said:

I rotated between 2i, 5w, and then 2 hybrid. I eventually settled on the hybrid for the versatility.

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