This is a disgrace.

[James_Black]

From now on the juniors at my club will have to play off the yellows not the mens tees.
Some of the 28 handicappers weren't able to play off their handicap so now instead of playing off the blues we all have to play off the yellows.

What do you think about this?

If we're going to enter competitions against other clubs we'll be playing off the blues.
I'm seriously considering joining another club next year.

[sean_miller]

  James_Black said:

From now on the juniors at my club will have to play off the yellows not the mens tees.

Can you provide a little context? What's a yellow or blue tee box where you live?

[James_Black]

  sean_miller said:

Can you provide a little context? What's a yellow or blue tee box where you live?

yellow's is next to the womens tees.

Blues is back another 20m probably a bit more.

[sean_miller]

  James_Black said:

yellow's is next to the womens tees.

Learn to love your long irons - make it harder on yourself through club selection so you can compete at the other courses.

[wubskis]

That's pretty terrible, I guess they're classing anyone under 18 as juniors? I'd do what sean_miller suggests, take shorter clubs off the tee to leave long irons into greens etc.

I'd definitely think about finding another club for next year though, this is a pretty stupid judgement on your current club's part.

[WUTiger]

Who came up with this idea? Can you appeal it? Seems like you may need two flights for the juniors.

[Bluenoser67]

Should be based on Handicap not Age. We have a kid at our course who is a +1.2 - I cant imagine forcing him to play short tees. Time to talk to some of the members at the course and see if you can get it changed. Good luck

[uttexas]

I'm sure there are many others at your club that aren't happy with this. Don't see this guideline adhered to or lasting a long time.

[2bGood]

Lots of people play off the wrong tee's. I am not sure handicap* or age limits should be set. I play with plenty of older guys who are single digits, that play a from the middle or forward tee's as they don't have the distance to get on in regulation from on of the back tee boxes (we have 5 sets of tee's). They can't hit it more then 190 with driver, which means they can't even reach the longer par 3's from the back two tee boxes. Then there is mid capper like me, I can hit it long enough to reach half of the par fives in two from the tips at my home course, if I do play the next tee box up the old guys cry "foul".

* as for handicaps I am favour of setting limit of say 20ish before you can start moving back, as if you are a 25 cap, even if you can hit the odd one long enough to play the back tees, you likely are way to erratic

[sean_miller]

  2bGood said:

Lots of people play off the wrong tee's. I am not sure handicap* or age limits should be set. I play with plenty of older guys who are single digits, that play a from the middle or forward tee's as they don't have the distance to get on in regulation from on of the back tee boxes (we have 5 sets of tee's). They can't hit it more then 190 with driver, which means they can't even reach the longer par 3's from the back two tee boxes. Then there is mid capper like me, I can hit it long enough to reach half of the par fives in two from the tips at my home course, if I do play the next tee box up the old guys cry "foul".

Those old guys don't sound like real single digits.

[Shindig]

  James_Black said:

I'm seriously considering joining another club next year.

This. In fact, if you can get back some portion of your membership fees for what's left of this season, and can join another club, do so.

Either way, when you leave, be sure to let your old club know why you left. If they try to maintain you as a member -- many clubs are hurting for members these days - get the offer in writing that, if you stay, you can play any set of tees you like (with some clause like a payment to you of the season's fees without loss of course privileges, each time you're removed from your choice tees, etc)

[sean_miller]

  Shindig said:

This. In fact, if you can get back some portion of your membership fees for what's left of this season, and can join another club, do so.

He's probably paying a reduced membership right now. Maybe if he agrees to pay the difference he can play from the men's tee.

[Shindig]

  sean_miller said:

He's probably paying a reduced membership right now. Maybe if he agrees to pay the difference he can play from the men's tee.

Possibly. I wonder if the marshalls know who has and hasn't paid the full membership fee. It also might be significantly more than the junior rate.

[James_Black]

  Shindig said:

Possibly. I wonder if the marshalls know who has and hasn't paid the full membership fee. It also might be significantly more than the junior rate.

it's not a snobby club by any means.

Men pay 400 euro a year. Juniors only have to pay 50. What's interesting is that they've really been pushing to get juniors in, this was the first year the club had a team and they gave us all club gear. The only reason they got good juniors this year was because my old club closed and most of us moved here.

[michaeljames92]

Wow. I pay $1200 per year. full adults pay $3500. 50 euro wouldn't even get you 1 round on my course. You are getting some serious bargain.

  James_Black said:

it's not a snobby club by any means.

[James_Black]

  michaeljames92 said:

Wow. I pay $1200 per year. full adults pay $3500. 50 euro wouldn't even get you 1 round on my course. You are getting some serious bargain.

golf is pretty cheap here.

my old course (country club) was 150 euro for juniors 1000 for adults.

[michaeljames92]

just gun everyone else off the front tees. maybe hit a few long irons off the tee to mimick where your usual driver would be

[misty_mountainhop]

Stupid rule but then I've never known a club yet that didn't have a significant number of stupid people involved in the Club rules.

Can you join another club as a junior and if so, would this incur a joining fee? If not, I'd say this has to be a serious consideration.