Mizuno Mp63 Play Short?

[delav]

Anyone on the board had a chance to try the new Mizuno MP63 irons? I hit them today against my current irons (same lie & shaft) and really liked the look at setup and feel at impact. However, the new Mizuno iron was consistently ~7-10 yard shorter than my ZMs, as well as a hair less forgiving on missed shots.

The 63 had a non-flighted PX 6.5 and the grip was a bit smaller than what I'm used to playing, however the 63 is 1 degree stronger in the 6 iron than my current set (30 vs 31).

I'm having a hard time understanding the distance loss, as a I've picked up a few yards with other similar clubs (TM R9TP, Tour Preferred, AP2, X Forged) over my current irons.

Anyone have any thoughts or experience here?

[mvmac]

I've noticed the same thing whenever I've tested Mizuno's on the course. Not sure why though.

[iacas]

  mvmac said:

I've noticed the same thing whenever I've tested Mizuno's on the course. Not sure why though.

Traditional lofts? Have you checked the lofts and length versus other clubs?

[delav]

In this particular case, the Mizunos were standard length and a degree stronger.

[motteler621]

I've had many sets of irons and I hit my mizunos the same distance as any other iron I've had.

[glbrum]

  mvmac said:

I've noticed the same thing whenever I've tested Mizuno's on the course. Not sure why though.

Not so for the JPX line. The 800 Pro's line up pretty well with everything else I've hit and the regular JPX [non-Pro] are said to be about 10-15 yds longer than the 800 Pro's. Just my n=1 experience, though.

[sean_miller]

  motteler621 said:

I've had many sets of irons and I hit my mizunos the same distance as any other iron I've had.

You're hitting some beefy MPs though. My old MPs go as far as any set I've used. Have you ever hit the 63s?

[motteler621]

no I havent hit any of the cavity back mizuno irons. So I wouldnt know, my money would be that they are the same distance as any other forged cavity back though. Theres tons of guys on the board who use mizuno cavity backs on here that could comment though

[Stretch]

Maybe the internal butter reservoirs weren't properly topped up during production? It happens.

I've hit the 800 Pros against the 53s and didn't see much difference in yardage between those. Will try the 53s against the 63s next time I'm at that range.

[delav]

  glbrum said:

Not so for the JPX line. The 800 Pro's line up pretty well with everything else I've hit and the regular JPX [non-Pro] are said to be about 10-15 yds longer than the 800 Pro's. Just my n=1 experience, though.

The JPX 800 is also a degree stronger than the JPX Pro, too. Did you notice a difference in feel/playability for the two? My dad is using MP33's, but considering stepping down to the new JPX line.

Thanks.

[motteler621]

  delav said:

The JPX 800 is also a degree stronger than the JPX Pro, too. Did you notice a difference in feel/playability for the two? My dad is using MP33's, but considering stepping down to the new JPX line.

I haven't hit the jpx line but they market that the jpx 800 iron has a hotter face by making the face thinner for more trampoline effect. They ouldnt forge the iron because of the thin face

[brn2golf]

  delav said:

The JPX 800 is also a degree stronger than the JPX Pro, too. Did you notice a difference in feel/playability for the two? My dad is using MP33's, but considering stepping down to the new JPX line.

The 800 is VERY hot! I hit them, as well as the Pro's and 57's. I hit the 800's 20+ yards further than the 57's and about 10 yards further than the Pro's. I also didn't produce much backspin with the 800's and there was more shot dispersion on them. The 57's had the tightest dispersion and the Pro's the best combination of distance and dispersion of the Mizuno's.

[motteler621]

  brn2golf said:

The 800 is VERY hot! I hit them, as well as the Pro's and 57's. I hit the 800's 20+ yards further than the 57's and about 10 yards further than the Pro's. I also didn't produce much backspin with the 800's and there was more shot dispersion on them. The 57's had the tightest dispersion and the Pro's the best combination of distance and dispersion of the Mizuno's.

yea I saw Luke Donald hitting them on the trackman compared to his mp irons and his ball speed was way faster and it was like 10 yards farther. Hes a pro though so his results are going to be more accurate than what someone ont he sandtrap might claim. He was like and why dont I have these in my bag, lol. Honestly though, I highly doubt hes gonna bag the 800's over their mp line. I wouldnt mind have a set of the 800's though if I had unlimited amounts of money to throw out on equipment

I dont know though, does 1 degree stonger in loft increase ballspeed? That might play into Luke Donalds results too, at that level any tweaking of loft is going to have dramatic results

[brn2golf]

  motteler621 said:

I dont know though, does 1 degree stonger in loft increase ballspeed? That might play into Luke Donalds results too, at that level any tweaking of loft is going to have dramatic results

I would say the clubface has more to do with it than the loft difference. It being cast vs. the forged of the Pro is part of the difference between them. The thing that bugged me though was I could see part of the cavity at address, of course picking up some extra distance gives you less club in your hand. That is assuming that you keep them in play...

[halcon]

I went to a pro shop today and I hit some Mizuno irons, and to me the MP-58 was way shorter than the MP-62. The 62 had a longer shaft (with lines indicating the std length, which I tried to use), but even considering that the 58 were too short. I was hitting the 58 150 yds on a "good" shot, while the 62 was giving me 160 on a bad contact, almost 190 in a good one. I play MP-57, and I play the 6 iron for 170~175 yds.
The only explanation I can imagine is that for some reason I can't hit the 58s in the sweet spot, while with the 62s it was easier for me (isn't it supposed to be the other way? )

[georgep]

I've actually had the opposite experience with the MP63s. I find them equal to or a little longer, which I mostly attribute to the DSG shaft, when compared to my AP2s with PX. I've also been very pleasantly surprised by how forgiving they are for a player's cavity. I wonder if the distance loss the OP reported is due to the PX shaft not fitting his swing and ballooning the ball. 5-7 yards is lot between clubs of the same basic type.

For me, these have been great playing irons... Mizuno feel with a lot of forgiveness.

[delav]

  georgep said:

I've actually had the opposite experience with the MP63s. I find them equal to or a little longer, which I mostly attribute to the DSG shaft, when compared to my AP2s with PX. I've also been very pleasantly surprised by how forgiving they are for a player's cavity. I wonder if the distance loss the OP reported is due to the PX shaft not fitting his swing and ballooning the ball. 5-7 yards is lot between clubs of the same basic type.

Both irons had PX 6.5s, with my current set being flighted. With a 6 iron in hand, I'd imagine the flighted set may fly a bit higher than the non-flighted club, however neither should produce a ballooning ball flight. Spin rates were pretty high with both (~9500 rpms).

[georgep]

I hit the MP63 and AP2 7-irons side by side yesterday. MP63 with TT DSG S was a few yards longer than AP2 with PX S, which you'd expect from the one-degree stronger loft.