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So is there a certain swing path or type to get more spin on wedges or irons for that matter?  I tend to hit the ball very high and i just about never get a divot.  For the most part my shots into the green tend to take a bounce and sit or spin a little bit forward.  Is there anything I can do to get the ball to move back or should I just be happy with what I got.  If anybody can post a link or talk about the mechanics of spinning the ball (i.e. getting it to come back, releasing, or sitting) it would be greatly appreciated.




Originally Posted by cphuph1

So is there a certain swing path or type to get more spin on wedges or irons for that matter?  I tend to hit the ball very high and i just about never get a divot.  For the most part my shots into the green tend to take a bounce and sit or spin a little bit forward.  Is there anything I can do to get the ball to move back or should I just be happy with what I got.  If anybody can post a link or talk about the mechanics of spinning the ball (i.e. getting it to come back, releasing, or sitting) it would be greatly appreciated.


You have to hit the ball with a downward blow and make clean contact.

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Hit down on the ball and accelerate through the shot. Think about striking a match.

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if i had a choice id prefer the ball just stick and zero spin.

to spin back, hit down on the ball and accelerate thru the ball


In order to get a lot of spin you need to hit down on the ball and you need to hit the ball before you club hits the ground.  It also helps if your grooves are clean and sharp and if you use a ball with a urethane cover.

Spinning the ball back is overrated.  Its a lot easier to do than most people think.

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Yep, pretty much that,  hit the ball first, then of course its clubhead speed. Since friction causes spin, the speed of the clubhead againts a static object has the greatest influence. As well as the angle of attacks.

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You can hit a chip shot that have enough spin to stop the ball pretty fast, so a very high speed is not needed. At first you want to make shorter swings to find the correct feelings, then build it up to a full swing. Club and ball is of course a part of the equation too, but with a good strike, you can get some spin on any ball.

When it comes to the shot, I would say you must hit the ball first and with a forward leaning shaft. The closer you hit the ball to the bottom of the swing, the less spin will be created. A greater angle of attack will produce more spin. A greater AoA also require a bit more precision to avoid hitting it fat, but it will work with the weight forward, centered upper body and holding the flying wedge. If you stoop forward with the upper body, the AoA will be too high and can cause irregularities. Upper body forward moves the shoulders forward, which moves the arms and club forward. Often to the point where you have to cast the club and lose the flying wedge to avoid topping the ball.

Here is a good drill you can work on. What Nick explains around 0:20 in the video is probably what you are doing. Throwing away the wedge and increasing the loft of the club, sending the ball high and with little spin.

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Use a premium ball and like everyone else has stated use a descending blow with clean contact.  The bottom of your swing arc through your divot should be in front of the ball 2-4 inches with 2 being good am and 4 being pro (ie The Impact Zone by Clampett). If you are not taking a divot then your club may be getting in front of your hands.  Remember that your hands lead the club which sets the shaft with some forward lean during impact.

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Another comment I've read from many different pro's when asked how to spin the ball backwards is this;  do you often hit the green past the pin?  If not why would you want it to spin backwards?

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Originally Posted by Puttsalott

Another comment I've read from many different pro's when asked how to spin the ball backwards is this;  do you often hit the green past the pin?  If not why would you want it to spin backwards?



I think thats the idea though.  That way you know exactly how far your carry distance is and can land the ball a little past the pin and the spin it back towards the hole.  Otherwise, it can be difficult to know how much rollout the ball will have because it can vary greatly depending upon firmness of the green and how much slope their is on the green.

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Originally Posted by Puttsalott

Another comment I've read from many different pro's when asked how to spin the ball backwards is this;  do you often hit the green past the pin?  If not why would you want it to spin backwards?


I always will answer this:

Because I want to be able to get the ball close to pins, which are cut close to a trap. So I want to fly the ball over the trap safely and let the ball spin back.

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Well when i think of spin, i think of getting to hop once or twice and stop. That sort of spin is more usable than backing it up, because its easier to project how far your ball will bounce instead of how much you will back it up. I remember seeing pro's back there balls off the green. I rather see as little backspin required for the shot at hand.

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This is easy as long as you have the right equipment for your game...if you don't...then this is a silly thing to be concerned over.

1. Hit the ball first.

2. Don't throw away the angle.

If you do that, with a 5 iron or with a wedge, you're going to flush it more and get the spin you desire.

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what's the reason why you want more backspin? I don't see a problem with the ball just landing and sitting. or even jumping up a little bit. unless, you just want the backspin cause you think it is cool? which it is. haha.

like a few people are saying....the ball can help a lot. I notice big differences between using a pro v1 and noodle.

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i play either callaway i(s) or nike tour ones so i dont think its the ball. i just wanted to know for tight pin placements and to see if there is anything to add to my bag of shots. i appreciate all of the feedback from everybody thanks. i should probably stop working on getting it to spin, since i have developed a slice after trying to add spin to my shots.


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