710 AP2 2-iron ?

[Gerald]

I've been told these have been made, how to locate one ?

I have lot's of trouble hitting a hybrid consistent ..... no it is not that I can't hit them with confidence, but one goes 210 and the next 240 ..... anyway I don't like the dispersion.

My 3i is about 190-195 and very consistent, so adding a 2i might fill the gap ..... maybe the best option might be adding the 710 CB 2i (according to Maltby there is almost no gap in playabillity between the AP2 and the CB).

Any Idea's .... ?

[Shorty]

Originally Posted by Gerald

I've been told these have been made, how to locate one ?

Any Idea's .... ?

I would think that contacting Titleist might be a fairly logical course of action.

[GaijinGolfer]

Learn to hit the hybrid more consistently and forget about the 2-iron.  If most pros no longer carry a 2, why would an amateur carry one?

[sean_miller]

Originally Posted by Gerald

I've been told these have been made, how to locate one ?

I have lot's of trouble hitting a hybrid consistent ..... no it is not that I can't hit them with confidence, but one goes 210 and the next 240 ..... anyway I don't like the dispersion.

My 3i is about 190-195 and very consistent, so adding a 2i might fill the gap ..... maybe the best option might be adding the 710 CB 2i (according to Maltby there is almost no gap in playabillity between the AP2 and the CB).

Any Idea's .... ?

When I played a 2-iron I found it no more consistent than a hybrid. I saw it as my go to gap filler between my driver and 3-iron. The yardage dispersion was similar, or perhaps even wider than the 30 yard range you're seeing with a hybrid. Anyway, I honestly wouldn't recommend a 2-iron to someone hitting a modern 3-iron less than 200 yards. A modern 3-iron should be a ~ 220 yard based on your driving distance. The right hybrid is out there for you. Just keep looking.

[Shindig]

Titleist's website doesn't list it, although that doesn't always mean it doesn't exist.  Your golf shop should be able to order one for you if Titleist makes one.

Otherwise, maybe they can order you a 3-iron, 3 degrees strong, shaft half an inch over your normal specification.  You may have to mark it in some way to indicate to you it's the 2 and not the 3, but it might serve as a 2-iron.

[Gerald]

OK this is what I found out, using several resources .......

First of all let me say that the fact most pro's don't carry 2i's anymore doesn't mean anything, as most of them not carrying a 2i have bent their 3i to a 2.5i and their 4i to a 3.5i ......

The max stonger for the AP2 3i is +2 ,,,,, but then it has a negative bounce (and I am no Ben Hogan).

Titleist is not making the AP2 2i ...... not in the catalog, and also not as special order, still they made some for tour players......

I actually could buy a used set containing one, but since they ask about new price for it, it is no option to buy the set, and resell the 3-pw .......

I asked Titleist ...... and they wrote that there are no AP2 2i's ....... I have seen at least one ........ no answer yet, but the answer in the first reply was to go for a CB 2i.

At the moment I have an old Callaway Big Bertha 2i (which I hit at about 220 yds.), but I don't like the dispersion from the graphite shaft that is in now.

[Shindig]

Might you consider other 2-irons?  TaylorMade Tour Preferred MC, Nike Victory Red, and Callaway Razr X-Forged all have 2-iron options.

[max power]

His signature suggests he won't.

Originally Posted by Shindig

Might you consider other 2-irons?  TaylorMade Tour Preferred MC, Nike Victory Red, and Callaway Razr X-Forged all have 2-iron options.

[Gerald]

Originally Posted by max power

His signature suggests he won't.

If I find one that matches my set, I don't give a ...... what brand is on it !

(by golf bag isn't saying Titleist either ..... Sun Mountain).

[max power]

I was just joshing ya-don't think a modern 2 iron is really a good idea anyway, especially since the modern 3 iron is approximately the same loft of most 2 irons throughout history.

Originally Posted by Gerald

If I find one that matches my set, I don't give a ...... what brand is on it !

(by golf bag isn't saying Titleist either ..... Sun Mountain).

[Stretch]

Latest generation Mizzy MP Fli-Hi? They reduced the offset and bounce from the previous design and it looks like a pretty good match with the AP2.

MP Fli-Hi 2 iron: Loft 18 degrees, Length 39.25", Offset 0.15", Bounce 0

AP2 3 iron: Loft 21 degrees, Length 39.00", Offset 0.16", Bounce 0

[Gerald]

I had one last year, also had a 16* Adams Pro Black which I could hit great for a while, but suddenly started to hit some ballooning balls with it and lost faith.....

The Fli-Hi has a dull sound, compared to an iron and it also felt a bit clicky compared to an iron...... didn't like the looks ...... also had a lot of dispersion (might have been my problem though).

Maybe I should try a 18* Adams Pro Black or buy a second hand 909H 17* or 19*

Originally Posted by Stretch

Latest generation Mizzy MP Fli-Hi? They reduced the offset and bounce from the previous design and it looks like a pretty good match with the AP2.

[Gerald]

AP2 3i is pretty conventional at 21* (my Cobra S2 was 19*)

Originally Posted by max power

I was just joshing ya-don't think a modern 2 iron is really a good idea anyway, especially since the modern 3 iron is approximately the same loft of most 2 irons throughout history.

[max power]

And most 2 irons were 20*, hence the "approximately the same" portion of my statement.

Originally Posted by Gerald

AP2 3i is pretty conventional at 21* (my Cobra S2 was 19*)

[sean_miller]

Personally I struggle with the clubs at either end the irons as well. I don't struggle to hit them, but it's those two yardage gaps that are the main reason I fiddle with different mixes. Once I settle on the best pitching wedge to put between the 9-iron and SW, I'm half way there. Same goes for the gap between a 3-wood and 3-iron.  They aren't decisions to overlook since they could be the tee shot and approach for most short par 4s.

Just keep searching Gerald. The ideal set makeup is out there somewhere.

PS. you could look at ebay for Titleist hybrids, but don't forget about their 980F 5-woods - really fantastic clubs for the money!

[Gerald]

Originally Posted by sean_miller

PS. you could look at ebay for Titleist hybrids, but don't forget about their 980F 5-woods - really fantastic clubs for the money!

Yep since I hit my strong 3W better since a few months, a 5W might also fit in the gap quite well ...... I actually don't know the 980F (from before my restart I guess) ........ will look on the sandtrap for some more info.....

[sean_miller]

Originally Posted by Gerald

Yep since I hit my strong 3W better since a few months, a 5W might also fit in the gap quite well ...... I actually don't know the 980F (from before my restart I guess) ........ will look on the sandtrap for some more info.....

I have one. I picked it up off ebay about a year and 1/2 ago for $5 (plus shipping which was way > $5). I think it came out between the 975  and 983 (great drivers - just to gauge the timeframe). It's not as "hot" off the face as my 19.5 degree hybrid therefore it doesn't have the same potential for distance, but for distance control , it's fantastic. I have it in the bag when I play my Mizunos (975D, 980F 5w, 3iron-P etc) since the 975D is a bit shorter than a modern driver.

[Gerald]

Yepppp ..... it is always difficult to find something that is great for a long par 3 or tight par 4 or the second shot at a reachable par 5.

At my homecourse we have two challenging par 3's one of 235 yds and another long one of 205 yds. ....... the shorter one is a solid 3i for me on most days, but the longer requires a carry of at least 210 yds to clear a lake and downslope to get up to green level ...... so no matter what I try or force with the 3i I almost never get it on the green ....... 3W is too long or choking down an inch, might get it up and running over.

Some of the young guys overhere reach it with a 3i or even a 4i ......... making a par on this hole is vital for a good round, but it is so easy to collect a double at this hole.......

So I need a 220-230 yds club ..... 5W or something like a 2i or Hybrid......... dispersion wise ...... I would think ..... 2i

The hybrid and 5W will be easier to hit, but have a larger dispersion and will have way more uses .........

Decisions, decisions, decisions .........