S & T - Longer clubs - More of a tendency to not shoulder down?

[nevets88]

I notice on the longer clubs, 5 iron and up, I tend to not get the shoulder down as much as I should. Is this a common tendency? To me, I have to feel more down, but maybe this is because my old swing I weight shifted back?

[iacas]

Originally Posted by nevets88

I notice on the longer clubs, 5 iron and up, I tend to not get the shoulder down as much as I should. Is this a common tendency?

To me, I have to feel more down, but maybe this is because my old swing I weight shifted back?

Well, your shoulder will go down less because you'll tend to be standing up just a bit more.

Plus, psychologically it's easier to feel that you can hit down on a wedge (and making a good centered turn enhances that feeling), but when you start to get a longer club it starts to feel weird, particularly if you used to shift off.

[michaeljames92]

Dead right. My thoughts exactly

Originally Posted by iacas

Well, your shoulder will go down less because you'll tend to be standing up just a bit more.

Plus, psychologically it's easier to feel that you can hit down on a wedge (and making a good centered turn enhances that feeling), but when you start to get a longer club it starts to feel weird, particularly if you used to shift off.

[Fatphil]

I had a heck of a time working the steep shoulders and the deep hands together...when my shoulders were steep my hands popped out, when my hands were deep my shoulders spun around.  A swing thought that finally clicked was to drive my left fist downward into the ground for the first 12" and forget about the shoulders.  For me that seems to merge the two actions together into one thought and it works with all the clubs and suprisingly its fairly effective with my putter also...go figure.