My Swing (threejack)

[uttexas]

Here's another good video for you [VIDEO]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Izp9Jrirk1Q&feature;=feedlik[/VIDEO]

[mdl]

On how to close the club face, Erik said:

Originally Posted by iacas

I'm not going to tell you, because you may not need to do any "more" of it.

Well, maybe threejack doesn't need it, but I'm interested in what you'd say.  I noted in another thread the other day that while it may be true that the vast majority of amateur slices come from an out-to-in swing plane, and not a failure to close the face, that my slices almost all start right, and 100% start right with everything but my driver, where misses tend to be straight pushes with everything but the scoring irons.  My slight misses tend to be straight pushes towards the right side of the green, and my big misses start at that same spot and fade/slice.  Which is just a long way of saying that I believe my big misses come more from not getting the face closed, rather than coming OTT.

My current beliefs about why that happens is that I tend to cup the wrist at the start of my down swing and drop my hands too far inside while pushing my hips too far towards the ball, rather than mostly sliding them down the target line.  When I try to just not do those things though, I tend to swing more rotational and come over the top while getting the club face closed and hit straight pulls with my shorter irons and pull draws to pull hooks with my longer irons.  Any recommended fixes?

[iacas]

Originally Posted by mdl

Well, maybe threejack doesn't need it, but I'm interested in what you'd say.

No offense intended mdl, but I'd prefer not to threadjack threejack's thread. ;-)

Please start your own thread or wait a little bit for a video I'd like to make.

[threejack]

Originally Posted by uttexas

Here's another good video for you{C}[if IE]>

[mdl]

Originally Posted by iacas

No offense intended mdl, but I'd prefer not to threadjack threejack's thread. ;-)

Please start your own thread or wait a little bit for a video I'd like to make.

Nice.  Fair enough.  I'm too often guilty of the attempted threadjack...

I think I'll forgo the sort of free-form swing help thread with no video.  I've been doing a lot of work on the swing lately and have been taking video fairly regularly.  I'll just make a video and start my own thread soon.

Looking forward to your video.  And the net-hitting practice article as well.

[bunkerputt]

Originally Posted by uttexas

Here's another good video for you[if IE]>

[iacas]

Originally Posted by bunkerputt

Is this actually a good video?  It seems like he's advocating moving the center forward in front of the ball on the downswing.  That causes the low ballooning shots with tons of spin if you setup in the right spot.  It seems like he needs to because he translates off the ball somewhat when he turns.  I'm also not sure about the down-the-line move he advocates to get onto the lower plane.  The leg action part seems OK to me.

Good point. I'm not a fan of two things in the video.

1. His head going forward. I'd agree that your lower center goes forward, and that actually helps to shallow the hit, but if your head goes forward you're right: you can get an AoA too steep and lose power and hit high-spin shots.
2. He gets into more of a "punch elbow" position than I'd prefer to see when he quickly re-establishes the "right arm on top." More people are better going slightly more pitch elbow here. Punch can work for some, just not the majority.

But on point #1, it's important to note that his head moves backwards during the backswing, so his "head going forward" really just re-centers it. Then he talks about - at the end of the video - his hips continuing to push forward and up. So again, point #1 must be taken in context.

Point #2 remains, though:

[threejack]

Ya, thanks for clarifying. Moving my lower center while keeping my upper center back has helped a lot already. I also found that my shoulders hang back and my swing is finished with my hands causing me to flip and hit it OTT