My Swing (Carpediem4300)

[carpediem4300]

[VIDEO]http://youtu.be/zDvEkldAdos[/VIDEO] New angles as per the videos

[carpediem4300]

Well try as i may i cant get the shoulder plane down, the harder i try to get the plane down the more i fat it or banana slice it :( Looks like im sticking with aiming left and hoping i dont hook it, irons are generally fine, hitting a number of them fat as well though [VIDEO]http://youtu.be/VcgeK1_UMU8[/VIDEO]

[mvmac]

Backswing practice swings looks better. Posture is still very stiff, check out this thread

And on the downswing, get the weight more forward, add more pressure into that left foot so the hips can transfer forward. Another reason to have the left foot turned out. When the weight doesn't get forward enough, the path will be left.

[carpediem4300]

I really struggled with putting the shoulder angles into an actually golf swing, and the more i tried to get the weight forward the more right i pushed it, odd might have to book in for another lesson

[mvmac]

I really struggled with putting the shoulder angles into an actually golf swing, and the more i tried to get the weight forward the more right i pushed it, odd might have to book in for another lesson

Take a wedge or a short iron and do it at 30% speed. Just work on changing the picture. Get the posture more "slumped", it will help. Going to be tough to sequence things properly with everything so rigid.

[carpediem4300]

Ive been making a conscious effort to stick my butt out and straighten my back, i guess thats making me rather stiff? In my latest range video my shoulders look rather pulled forward also which i guess isnt good? I can manage the shoulders on the irons to a degree, just the woods im struggling with, got short arms :(

[mvmac]

Ive been making a conscious effort to stick my butt out and straighten my back, i guess thats making me rather stiff? In my latest range video my shoulders look rather pulled forward also which i guess isnt good?

I can manage the shoulders on the irons to a degree, just the woods im struggling with, got short arms :(

Did you read the thread?

Sticking the butt out and standing up isn't a good position for playing good golf. You need to do the opposite, slump over and soften the lower back. Especially if you have short arms

[carpediem4300]

Ah i see more now, thank you for the advice I'm playing thursday I'll see how it goes :)

[carpediem4300]

well another range session and another disaster :( i just cannot get a feeling for what a good swing feels like, i couldnt get my 3 wood off the deck and when i did it was bananarama i tried slow 30% swings to try and grain a feel but couldnt find anything by the end of the session the only thing that got my irons/driver anywhere near playable was an exaggerated hip turn on the back swing, 3 wood was still shit though, how i didnt snap every club through sheer frustration i do not know i spent an hour trying to hit a draw, and just pushed it further and further right, tried starting with a closed clubface and just fatted it, i wonder sometimes if i just cant play golf [VIDEO]http://youtu.be/6WKQYcrrCBs[/VIDEO]

[FooFader]

Hi there, thought i'd comment for two reasons. Firstly, don't get disheartened. As long as you're making progress with whatever you're working on, set up in your case from the above posts then try to stay happy. We all play golf because we enjoy it right? Also us people from the UK need to stick together on here

Also as a side note when you're filming your swing or anything for that matter hold your phone/camera sideways so you get the videos without the blacks bars at the side on YouTube, took me to see a post of someone moaning about this before i realised i'd been doing it wrong myself so thought i'd share it with you before someone moans. Good Luck with your game, i'll be following your thread

[carpediem4300]

lol didnt know sidewayswould fix that, thanks i think im most disheartened by how my game was really good last year, i was shooting mid 80's and now its just gone to pot, im no where near my 18 handicap at the minute, ive even started fading my irons now the more i try to get my weight forward the more i slice everything and even shanked a few i hit a few drivers with a feeling of getting me left wrist flat at impact and hit some good drives but this was at 40% swing, as soon as i ramped it up i couldnt replicate the feeling and just blocked everything right

[mvmac]

i tried slow 30% swings to try and grain a feel but couldnt find anything

The slower swings are partially to give yourself a feel but also to make sure you change the picture. So you film yourself making slow swings and you check it to make sure you're doing it enough. If not then you do it more, if it's good then you know that feel worked to make the picture good at 30% speed.

Would also recommend this drill

[carpediem4300]

its funnyu should post that drill as i remember seeing it a while back when i tried s&t; so i tried it today and just block sliced even the short drill shots, the full swing was so oob i dont think they have a bame for it, for whatever reason i cannot produce a swing that comes anywhere close to naturally squaring the face to whatever swing path i impart, every swing i do i have to manually try and roll the wrists over or something of a similar ilk, mostly that causes a hook, flip, banana slice, block, the only thing i can guarantee when i step up to a golf ball now is the swing is gunna crap, ive found a teacher that a friend recomended who is the swing coach of a few touring pros that apparently is really good so im going to go see him see what he says by looking at my swing and some video analysis its hard because the more i try to implement your drills the further right i hit the ball, the more fat i hit the ball, so changing is hard because the results are worse, the big problem is going back to what i do now is just as bad i hate this game, low 80's last year? not happening this year for sure

[Hammer 4]

Not to highjack your thread, but I hit about 20 balls today doing what Mike, and Erik showed. First few balls went where ever, but the rest went fairly straight, definitely helped me.

[carpediem4300]

Not to highjack your thread, but I hit about 20 balls today doing what Mike, and Erik showed. First few balls went where ever, but the rest went fairly straight, definitely helped me.

lol not at all i get what you mean i think my problem is rooted elsewhere that even when i get what mike is telling me right, it doesnt pan out because of my other problems

[carpediem4300]

Mike/Erik

I didnt want to start another thread for this question and clog things up so thought id ask it here and hope you see it,

I'm spending 10-20 minutes a day in the mirror teaching myself a new shoulder plane, a steeper one as im really flat, im using your drills to help this and it feels good, at first it was awkward and painful, now it feels free,

Tomorrow i plan on a range session with my buddy videoing my swing and i plan on the 30% drill mike advocated to engrain the feel, (a few full swings as well, i like to thwack it sometimes)

My question is, im grooving a new backswing shoulde plane thats steeper, do i need to replicate this on the downswing? it feels natural to do that from where my new backswing ends up, but feels as though i might end up smashing the club into the ground getting the right shoulder that far down on the down swing,......

Is this the right sorta feeling? im not to focused on the downswing as yet as i want the backswing plan to be grooved in before i jump ahead, but a general idea/consensus would be cool

@mvmac

[iacas]

My question is, im grooving a new backswing shoulde plane thats steeper, do i need to replicate this on the downswing? it feels natural to do that from where my new backswing ends up, but feels as though i might end up smashing the club into the ground getting the right shoulder that far down on the down swing,......

Is this the right sorta feeling? im not to focused on the downswing as yet as i want the backswing plan to be grooved in before i jump ahead, but a general idea/consensus would be cool

@mvmac

I wouldn't worry too much about your downswing yet. A change in the backswing will tend to produce changes in the downswing "automatically." Just let that stuff happen and when downswing stuff becomes your priority, deal with it then.

And if you want to whack a few balls at full speed on the range, go at it. It's fun and a good change of pace. Just limit them and spend a bit more of the time working on stuff to make changes.

[carpediem4300]

ok cool, thanks for the input, will hopefully post some video tomorrow night :)