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Originally Posted by ApocG10

LOL, I get a kick out of people like Hobo Trekker. The course isn't for practice? Thats the biggest load of crap I have ever heard.

And there is nothing wrong with playing 2 balls if you aren't holding anyone up. I'm glad I'll never have to golf with a few of you guys.

youre an idiot and have no idea about the rules or etiquette of golf, dont ever come over here to play.

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Originally Posted by HoboTrekker

you dont know the rules of golf, playing 2 balls is against the rules ie wrong.

Would you call a guy that grounds his club in a bunker or carries 15 clubs "massively arrogant and hugely ignorant" as well?  Both are also against the rules.

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Originally Posted by HoboTrekker

you dont know the rules of golf, playing 2 balls is against the rules ie wrong.

He wasn't playing for a score if he was just getting in a practice round.

The golf course can be used for practice, despite your protestations otherwise.

Chill, man.

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another vote for the fact that someone playing 2 balls is a jacka**.

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The one thing I keep reading is it's okay to play two balls "if you're not holding anyone up". That is subjective. Many people interpret this to mean "well, we're only going to have to wait on the next tee anyway" so let me hit the shot again shot or look for extra balls in the hazard or retry that putt.

You have to take into consideration what that looks like to the group behind you. They are waiting to hit, see the a person in the group in front of them hit an approach shot only to have to wait some more as that person then walks over to his second drive to play another approach shot. Nobody in that trailing group is thinking "well, he's not really holding anyone up because he'll only have to wait on the next tee box.". On empty course, you can do whatever you want, imo, but on a "absolutely packed" one where everyone's patience is wearing thin already, playing two balls is asking for trouble.

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Originally Posted by Elvisliveson

The one thing I keep reading is it's okay to play two balls "if you're not holding anyone up". That is subjective. Many people interpret this to mean "well we're only going to have to wait on the tee anyway" so let me hit the shot again shot or look for extra balls in the hazard or retry that putt.

I have to disagree with this, and I will again borrow the signature line of FourPutt and say "Your proper place on the course is directly behind the group in front of you, not directly ahead of the group behind you." If you are maintaining your pace of play and are in position on the course, the group behind you just has to accept that they are also in position regardless if they want their position to be where you are at.

The trouble is that people are very short sighted and want immediate satisfaction. It's like the idiot blowing his horn and flipping off the car infront of him as he sits in a mile long line of traffic.

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So you're golfing and moving along. Suddenly there is a backup. You pull up well behind the teebox and wait respectfully in quiet, You see a guy in front of you hit from two tee boxes?  What else are you going to think?

When I was a newbie, I was hitting extra balls on a par 3 trying to get onto the green, and caught bigtime grief from the guys waiting behind us. Lesson learned about golf etiquette,

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I have to disagree with this, and I will again borrow the signature line of FourPutt and say "Your proper place on the course is directly behind the group in front of you, not directly ahead of the group behind you." If you are maintaining your pace of play and are in position on the course, the group behind you just has to accept that they are also in position regardless if they want their position to be where you are at.

The trouble is that people are very short sighted and want immediate satisfaction. It's like the idiot blowing his horn and flipping off the car infront of him as he sits in a mile long line of traffic.

The trouble is that people don't want to put themselves in anyone else's shoes, obviously. It's all about what their "right" is and if they going nowhere they're going to do what's best for them; just as short-sighted and selfish in my opinion. It takes two to tango.

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Originally Posted by DocWu1948

So you're golfing and moving along. Suddenly there is a backup. You pull up well behind the teebox and wait respectfully in quiet, You see a guy in front of you hit from two tee boxes?  What else are you going to think?

If it's me, I look ahead, and notice the people just leaving the fairway and driving up towards the green, and I don't worry about it.

People always seem to be looking for a reason to get pissed off. I won't play more than a ball on a hole if the people behind me are waiting. Heck, I've waved groups through as a single and said "I'm just practicing, go on ahead of me" so I can hit two, three, four balls without any worries. But if I'm behind someone doing this, I'm going to give them the benefit of the doubt unless it's obvious they're holding us up or playing more slowly than they would be if they didn't play the extra ball(s) and they have room in front of them.

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Originally Posted by HoboTrekker

you cant practice on a course unless youre a pro thats correct, perhaps on yours though I doubt your story and clearly if youre allowed to practice chip onto the 18th its an absolute goat track.

Well sir, you can call my course a goat track thanks to your girlfriend grazing in the middle of the fairways!!

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Originally Posted by HoboTrekker

youre an idiot and have no idea about the rules or etiquette of golf, dont ever come over here to play.

Where is over here? Because i've already done it at the Old Course, hitting second shots after a bad one, just out playing for fun. I did it at Pebble Beach as well. The Links at Crowbush. Basically anywhere I ever played a practice round. I planned on tearing up ireland later this month, until the wife and I had to cancel our trip due to a recurrence of my fathers cancer.

Nowhere in any rule book, or any 'etiquette of golf' books does it say anything against playing two balls, and you making up this bullshit rule doesn't make it real. Its people like you who are hurting the game of golf with your ridiculous ideas, bad attitude, and assholish behavior. We need less people like you out there trying to intimidate others because of rules you made up. Luckily im not easily intimidated by chest thumping morons and their stupid ideas. Stupid ideas like telling people a course isn't for practice. That must be why the pro at our course gives some lessons on the front 9 when the course is quiet, because he believes practice on the course is far more beneficial than on the range.

So cut out the insults, stop your bullshit and lies and trying to make rules that don't exist, and trying to force others to follow them. Get the hell of your high horse. As a matter of fact, do this wonderful game a favor and stop playing, it doesn't need fool like you hurting it, acting like they have some right to tell others what to do.

Its pretty funny how the pro's and low HC players here mostly all disagree with you, so you resort to name calling. Real classy from someone who supposedly takes the game so seriously.


Do tell me where you play, i'd love to do it there as well.

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Have people here not heard of playing lessons? Sheesh people are out practicing on courses with course employees at their side every day. I use an independant and we simply make the guys in the proshop or the starter aware that we are there for a playing lesson and all is good.

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Originally Posted by ApocG10

Where is over here? Because i've already done it at the Old Course, hitting second shots after a bad one, just out playing for fun. I did it at Pebble Beach as well. The Links at Crowbush. Basically anywhere I ever played a practice round. I planned on tearing up ireland later this month, until the wife and I had to cancel our trip due to a recurrence of my fathers cancer.

Nowhere in any rule book, or any 'etiquette of golf' books does it say anything against playing two balls, and you making up this bullshit rule doesn't make it real. Its people like you who are hurting the game of golf with your ridiculous ideas, bad attitude, and assholish behavior. We need less people like you out there trying to intimidate others because of rules you made up. Luckily im not easily intimidated by chest thumping morons and their stupid ideas. Stupid ideas like telling people a course isn't for practice. That must be why the pro at our course gives some lessons on the front 9 when the course is quiet, because he believes practice on the course is far more beneficial than on the range.

So cut out the insults, stop your bullshit and lies and trying to make rules that don't exist, and trying to force others to follow them. Get the hell of your high horse. As a matter of fact, do this wonderful game a favor and stop playing, it doesn't need fool like you hurting it, acting like they have some right to tell others what to do.

Its pretty funny how the pro's and low HC players here mostly all disagree with you, so you resort to name calling. Real classy from someone who supposedly takes the game so seriously.

Do tell me where you play, i'd love to do it there as well.

low handicaps ?  I play off 3 on a way harder course than you play.  its just simple fact, Im sorry if youre ignorant of the etiquette of the game, its actually a-holes like you that are turning people away, a golf course is to be respected that means not practising on it dead simple, there are exceptions such as a private course or if its completely dead or a total shithole who cares anyway, but on any decent course its just unbelievable to consider that acceptable theres just no way, if you were spotted doing that on the old course btw you may have got warned, if you displayed an attitude about it like you have on this thread ie I can play 2 balls if I want youd be escorted from the course and banned from all r and a courses for life.  its not a rule I made up its just a rule youre not aware of cause youre ignorant, your ignorance is hardly my fault, or problem.

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Originally Posted by HoboTrekker

low handicaps ?  I play off 3 on a way harder course than you play.  its just simple fact, Im sorry if youre ignorant of the etiquette of the game, its actually a-holes like you that are turning people away, a golf course is to be respected that means not practising on it dead simple, there are exceptions such as a private course or if its completely dead or a total shithole who cares anyway, but on any decent course its just unbelievable to consider that acceptable theres just no way, if you were spotted doing that on the old course btw you may have got warned, if you displayed an attitude about it like you have on this thread ie I can play 2 balls if I want youd be escorted from the course and banned from all r and a courses for life.  its not a rule I made up its just a rule youre not aware of cause youre ignorant, your ignorance is hardly my fault, or problem.

On a way harder course than me? Ok Captain Retard, you don't even know what course I play, not to mention that I play all over the world when I travel. and shoot low to mid 70's on them consistently. More and more, you show us what a moron you are. Its safe to say nobody here agree's with you. I do know the rules and etiquette of golf, as well as the rules. I also compete. So please, stop with your bullshit and lies. I've been a high level athlete my whole life, I know more about respect, etiquette, and rules than you could ever hope to. Stop being a condescending *******, nothing you have said here is true, and the old course marshalls have no problem with you replaying a shot if nobody is waiting on you.

You are the ignorant *******. An internet tough guy I suspect. The funny thing is, even the pro's and admins here have told you that you are wrong. You just dont want to listen, or admit you are wrong. Take a long walk off a short pier, *******. There is no rule concerning practicing on a golf course, as a matter of fact, most places encourage it if you aren't holding anyone up. So again, stop your bullshit and lies.

You should just leave the Sandtrap now. Save mods the trouble of running you off/banning you for constantly insulting members without reason, over rules you made up in your head.

In the Ogio Kingpin bag:

Titleist 913 D2 9.5* w/ UST Mamiya ATTAS 3 80 w/ Harrison Shotmaker & Billy Bobs afternarket Hosel Adaptor (get this if you don't have it for your 913)
Wilson Staff Ci-11 4-GW (4I is out of the bag for a hybrid, PW and up were replaced by Edel Wedges)
TaylorMade RBZ 5 & 3 Fairway Woods

Cobra Baffler T-Rail 3 & 4 Hybrids

Edel Forged 48, 52, 56, 60, and 64* wedges (different wedges for different courses)

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Originally Posted by Dave2512

Have people here not heard of playing lessons? Sheesh people are out practicing on courses with course employees at their side every day. I use an independant and we simply make the guys in the proshop or the starter aware that we are there for a playing lesson and all is good.

Shhhhhhhh... You are making sense. Hobo can't understand these things. You need to talk in 'lies' and 'imaginary rules' to get anywhere with him.

In the Ogio Kingpin bag:

Titleist 913 D2 9.5* w/ UST Mamiya ATTAS 3 80 w/ Harrison Shotmaker & Billy Bobs afternarket Hosel Adaptor (get this if you don't have it for your 913)
Wilson Staff Ci-11 4-GW (4I is out of the bag for a hybrid, PW and up were replaced by Edel Wedges)
TaylorMade RBZ 5 & 3 Fairway Woods

Cobra Baffler T-Rail 3 & 4 Hybrids

Edel Forged 48, 52, 56, 60, and 64* wedges (different wedges for different courses)

Seemore Si-4 Black Nickel Putter

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Originally Posted by ApocG10

On a way harder course than me? Ok Captain Retard, you don't even know what course I play, not to mention that I play all over the world when I travel. and shoot low to mid 70's on them consistently. More and more, you show us what a moron you are. Its safe to say nobody here agree's with you. I do know the rules and etiquette of golf, as well as the rules. I also compete. So please, stop with your bullshit and lies. I've been a high level athlete my whole life, I know more about respect, etiquette, and rules than you could ever hope to. Stop being a condescending *******, nothing you have said here is true, and the old course marshalls have no problem with you replaying a shot if nobody is waiting on you.

You are the ignorant *******. An internet tough guy I suspect. The funny thing is, even the pro's and admins here have told you that you are wrong. You just dont want to listen, or admit you are wrong. Take a long walk off a short pier, *******. There is no rule concerning practicing on a golf course, as a matter of fact, most places encourage it if you aren't holding anyone up. So again, stop your bullshit and lies.

You should just leave the Sandtrap now. Save mods the trouble of running you off/banning you for constantly insulting members without reason, over rules you made up in your head.

no pro or admin has told me I am wrong, several have agreed with me, yes on a harder course than you I dont need to know what course you play, everything Ive said here is true it just pisses you off as it shows you up to be an ignorant moron, no course in the history of the world has ever encouraged practising on it youre having a laugh now, almost all forbid it.  I have also witnessed marshall give golfers into trouble about it dozens of times, possibly hundreds.

as for playing lessons on certain courses at certain times sure, as a rule no.

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Originally Posted by HoboTrekker

no pro or admin has told me I am wrong, several have agreed with me, yes on a harder course than you I dont need to know what course you play, everything Ive said here is true it just pisses you off as it shows you up to be an ignorant moron, no course in the history of the world has ever encouraged practising on it youre having a laugh now, almost all forbid it.  I have also witnessed marshall give golfers into trouble about it dozens of times, possibly hundreds.

as for playing lessons on certain courses at certain times sure, as a rule no.


Ummm, Iacas is both a pro, and the owner of this site, and disagrees with you completely.

But keep on with the name calling, you'll be banned before you know it. As I said, you are yet to prove anything you said, because you can't, as it is all bullshit. I have never, ever seen a marshall bother anyone who was keeping pace, period. And I doubt you play a harder course than me, as im a member at 3, and regularly play 4 others, all around 140~ slope rating. I also compete. Im sorry your whole life revolves around lying and making up rules on the internet. You are pathetic and sad.

The only ignorant, pissed off poster here is you. The rest of us just think you are foolish, and want to make sure that other new golfers just getting into the game know that there is absolutely no truth to anything you say, and that they should practice on the course as much as they can, as long as they aren't holding anyone up. .

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In the Ogio Kingpin bag:

Titleist 913 D2 9.5* w/ UST Mamiya ATTAS 3 80 w/ Harrison Shotmaker & Billy Bobs afternarket Hosel Adaptor (get this if you don't have it for your 913)
Wilson Staff Ci-11 4-GW (4I is out of the bag for a hybrid, PW and up were replaced by Edel Wedges)
TaylorMade RBZ 5 & 3 Fairway Woods

Cobra Baffler T-Rail 3 & 4 Hybrids

Edel Forged 48, 52, 56, 60, and 64* wedges (different wedges for different courses)

Seemore Si-4 Black Nickel Putter

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