Let's talk college football

[dsc123]

Look at who is immediately below ND.

LSU--4-1. Wins against North Texas, Washington, Idaho and a 2 point win over a 1-4 Auburn.  Then a loss to Florida.  Should ND be lower than LSU?

USC -- 4-1.  Wins against Hawaii, Syracuse, Utah and Cal (2-4).  Loss to Standford.

Oklahoma -- 3-1.  Wins against UTEP, Florida A&M;, and Texas Tech.  Loss to KState.

Florida State -- 5-1.  Wins over Murray State, Savannah State, Wake Forrest, Clemson and South Florida.  Loss to NC State.

Which of those teams have beaten two teams that are better than Mich and Mich St.  Sure Florida St beat Clemson, but they lost to NC State.  I dont think any of the other teams beat ONE team that was better than Mich/Mich St.

Which of these teams should be ranked above ND?

[dsc123]

Originally Posted by bamagrad03

Agreed. But they aren't squeaking by with one score wins like ND did against Michigan and Purdue. There's no way a team like Clemson or Oklahoma beats a Purdue team by 3 points at home.

That's why I'm saying you can't JUST look at the record. You have to look at how they win. Is ND much improved? Yes. Are they a top 7 team? No. ND's defense is winning them games right now. But they HAVE to find some offense before they can be considered an elite team. Have to.

I don't think ND can compete for a national championship.  But they're not ranked #1.  If you're saying they are overrated, then you've got to show that the teams below them are better.  They're ranked #7.  That is appropriate.  They have played better than the teams below them.

[bamagrad03]

Well a lot of this is stemming from them being #1 in the computers. So I do think they're overrated.

It's not PC to put undefeated teams behind 1 loss teams, so technically, they're probably ranked correctly. But teams I think that could beat ND?

I think LSU would beat ND. I think FSU would beat ND. Oklahoma we'll get to see in a couple weeks. Southern Cal we'll find out as well. I think Clemson could, Texas A&M; could. But that's the beauty of it, we get the benefit of sitting back and letting the season play itself out.

I'm going to be an ND skeptic until the find an offense and start beating crappy teams with ease. Miami was a good start.

[dsc123]

Originally Posted by bamagrad03

Well a lot of this is stemming from them being #1 in the computers. So I do think they're overrated.

It's not PC to put undefeated teams behind 1 loss teams, so technically, they're probably ranked correctly. But teams I think that could beat ND?

I think LSU would beat ND. I think FSU would beat ND. Oklahoma we'll get to see in a couple weeks. Southern Cal we'll find out as well. I think Clemson could, Texas A&M; could. But that's the beauty of it, we get the benefit of sitting back and letting the season play itself out.

I'm going to be an ND skeptic until the find an offense and start beating crappy teams with ease. Miami was a good start.

Generally, in sport, teams are judged by who they beat, not by who fans think they could beat.  They've earned a #7 ranking at this point in the season.  Its silly to declare them overrated because of one of the computer rankings that are used as a factor in the overall BCS system had them at #1.

[LSU_justin]

Originally Posted by bamagrad03

Les Miles isn't your problem. He's a damn fine coach. LSU has been wrecked with injuries this year. Especially on the Oline. Between that and Matthieu's antics, it really put LSU behind the 8 ball. I really like Miles and he's done a great deal while he's been down there. Just think he was dealt a bad hand this year.

The defense has been fine without Mathieu. Les is a good recruiter and motivator. But he is stubborn and has his hand in the offensive play calling way too much.

[bwdial]

Originally Posted by LSU_justin

The defense has been fine without Mathieu. Les is a good recruiter and motivator. But he is stubborn and has his hand in the offensive play calling way too much.

Mettenberger is a hot mess.  I think we are seeing why Mark Richt let him walk away from Athens so easily.