New School Pitching

[birlyshirly]

Originally Posted by iacas

I don't define them that way. Pitches use the bounce, chips use the leading edge.

Using those definitions, what conditions would lead you to favour a chip over a pitch?

[cipher]

Using those definitions, what conditions would lead you to favour a chip over a pitch?

Read post #7 in this thread for your answer.

[birlyshirly]

Got it, thanks. Short runners from the fringe.

[onephenom]

The video makes sense but I'm not sure I see the difference between the two techniques. Partly because he says to lean the shaft just in front of the zipper... then he leans it way forward just like he says not to. When I look at the difference between what he's talking about... I really only see a different way of doing the same thing. His technique still has the hands in front of the ball at impact. Still accelerates into the ball.

When he talks about "old school" style blocking the club and keeping the hands way forward... I don't see the difference between the two. The "old school" is phil's hinge and hold, and having the hands blocked like that is showing how important having the hands forward is. If you watch phil hit shots, he doesn't block. His hands release. Same thing with this new school, and same thing with erik and mike's method... except for the floaty loady :)

Seems to just be a different explanation of the same impact position.

[cipher]

I get what you are saying, I think the hands might still be a bit forward at impact but not as much and the ball is more centered or forward and not back.   In Mike and Erik's Method that they teach, the method that Utley teaches and this so called "new school" method that even Hogan used, the ball is not generally off the back foot and so the shaft is a bit more vertical and uses the bounce to slide under.  Check out hogan "chipping" below which I think Erik and Mike would say are just small pitches.  The "old school" method that many of us used to use is just putting the ball back and slamming the leading edge into the ground, that is the difference.

[TourSpoon]

I used this bounce wedge yesterday in a tight lie with the grain growing into the pitch. Got it to 2 feet.

Love the Hogan video.

[mvmac]

When you guys watch the Hogan video, check out how much the club travels compared to the hands and how the club is "toe up" on the backswing.  Good stuff.

[TourSpoon]

Originally Posted by mvmac

When you guys watch the Hogan video, check out how much the club travels compared to the hands and how the club is "toe up" on the backswing.  Good stuff.

Classic, he even has the alignment stick in his mouth...lol.

[Stretch]

I've been using this method for a while, but only recently with some higher bounce wedges (Edel trapper grind. Not sure what the exact #s are but would guess maybe in the 20s, Erik or Mike?)

Basically now have two reliable stock shots using the exact same technique: 53 degree wedge, ball back a bit, mid flight, hop & stop. 58 degree wedge, ball forward a bit, high flight, drop & stop. Really un-complicates things around the green.

[bangorgolfer]

I have been doing this for a few months now and it has helped.

[mvmac]

[cipher]

Well...I am a sort of specialist at keeping the elbows separated. ;)