anyone in computers or IT career?

[Slice of Life]

Originally Posted by Spyder

You are absolutely kidding me...

We don't work hard in the Information Technology field? That's probably true for some second-rate call centers where the employees are doing nothing more than reading off of cue cards and hold the title of "Help Desk Agent" and consider themselves an IT professional. If you're referring to 90% of the industry though, employees in the Information Technology field are very hard workers.

Network Administration/Engineering, Software Engineers, top level Technical Support Agents/Analysts/Managers/Supervisors and Project Engineers do not have it easy by any means.

If you can't handle stress, you picked one of the worst fields to even talk about. My advice to you is to quit crying about the life that you made for yourself on this forum and go do something productive. Man up and have some self-respect and dignity and go get a job and become a productive member society. Either that, or grab some fingerless gloves and a cup and go shake it at an intersection and be done with it.

Let's not insult real engineers and lump them in with the majority of IT professionals.

[David in FL]

Originally Posted by Motown88

If you're looking for a job that will require you to do nothing a degree won't help you any. You need discipline and the only way to ensure that is to join the military, and probably not even the AF. As far as you having a say in your career, you do make a list of what interests you and as long as you score high enough on the ASVAB you can damn near choose your career. No one said life is easy!

Let's think this through.  Are stupid, lazy, and unable to handle stress characteristics that will allow for a successful career in the Air Force?

[TourSpoon]

Originally Posted by Slice of Life

Let's not insult real engineers and lump them in with the majority of IT professionals.

It's a dirty job...but it looks like fun!

[Lihu]

Originally Posted by golf55

It was bad idea to not have a back up plan while trying to turn pro. Now I'm stressing the $#$% out cause my game is still isn't close to where it is. Getting close to 30.... :( dropped out of school ages ago and I need to have a career. I'm not very smart or hard working person but someone told me that IT or computers don't do a lot of work. They work for maybe 2hrs and web browse rest of the day. I need something like this! I can't handle stress because it triggers panic attacks. Can someone from computers or IT field tell me what the job is like? Please don't say it's EASY. because I failed a lot of classes that people found EASY.

If you could cure your "Panic attacks" you might still have a chance turning pro.

You need nerves of steel to do IT, things happen fast and solutions must be fast.

As an engineer, I have had many IT related issues.

Many times the IT people can tell us the solution to a problem (that is usually wrong) without flinching.

Sometimes, their solutions happen to fix problems for the wrong reason.They say with undying certainty that a solution presented is "perfect". When it works, it gives the user much more confidence in their system.

When it does not, they have a good "reason" for it, and try something else. Computer operating systems (Windows) are so complicated that they are prone to so many malfunctions. This leads to many guesses as to what could be wrong. There are so many things that could go wrong. You need a good idea of cause and effect relationship inside the system to be good at IT. Plus, you need to be pretty proficient at other OS like Linux and MacOS as well.

This is not a low stress job.

[Lihu]

Originally Posted by Slice of Life

Let's not insult real engineers and lump them in with the majority of IT professionals.

The main difference is we know how the system really works, and can't fix many of the problems as a result of that. ).

[Motown88]

No, but that's what Basic Training is for!

[geauxforbroke]

Originally Posted by golf55

It was bad idea to not have a back up plan while trying to turn pro.

Sure was.

Originally Posted by golf55

Getting close to 30.... :( dropped out of school ages ago and I need to have a career.

If you dropped out of school early, and you're almost 30, what have you been doing to make money for the past 10+ years? Wait, on second thought, I don't want to know.

Originally Posted by golf55

I'm not very smart or hard working person

If you want a career, you're going to need to be one or the other. There are plenty of smart, lazy people that make decent careers, and plenty of less intelligent people that work hard enough to make up for it. But someone who isn't smart and isn't willing to work hard is going to have a tough time.

Originally Posted by golf55

Please don't say it's EASY. because I failed a lot of classes that people found EASY.

It's not easy.

[Jeremie Boop]

To be in IT you have to enjoy challenges and be willing to continue learning for the rest of your life while still working. You can't just get a degree and get a job then coast for the rest of the time. There are going to be situations that you don't have the answer to and you need to find the answer quickly. I thrive on this type of challenge and environment. Sure there are plenty of days where there is not much to do and you can relax, but those aren't the best days. The days when you are able to get people back up and running in a short amount of time or find the solution to a problem that has stumped you for awhile are the most rewarding by far. There is no such thing as an "easy" job that you can make good money at unless some rich family member gives you a token position doing nothing.

[David in FL]

Originally Posted by Motown88

No, but that's what Basic Training is for!

I spent 20 years in the Marine Corps and I'm here to tell you, basic training can't fix stupid or lazy......  and it will sure as hell figure out in a hurry who can't handle stress!

[golf55]

Originally Posted by David in FL

I spent 20 years in the Marine Corps and I'm here to tell you, basic training can't fix stupid or lazy......  and it will sure as hell figure out in a hurry who can't handle stress!

Posting in a thread about computers/IT that you know nothing about. Are you stupid? why are you posting in my thread?

Originally Posted by newtogolf

Where did you get the idea you could be a professional golfer without working hard at it?  A couple of hours a day and you expect to be a pro?  Do some research on how much time pro's practice and play golf, I think you're in for a rude awakening.  I still think politics is your best bet.

Originally Posted by David in FL

Let's think this through.  Are stupid, lazy, and unable to handle stress characteristics that will allow for a successful career in the Air Force?

Yeah because you sure know what it takes to be a professional golfer. I never said I was stupid, reported you for calling me stupid. How does it feel that no matter how hard you practice golf you'll never beat this stupid guy. Getting beat by a stupid guy. what does that make you? a retard?

Originally Posted by Lihu

If you could cure your "Panic attacks" you might still have a chance turning pro.

never said I was giving up. Just need a career since there's no guaranteed of me turning pro anytime soon. I'm unhappy with my situation and I want to change it. Which is getting a career.

Originally Posted by Jeremie Boop

To be in IT you have to enjoy challenges and be willing to continue learning for the rest of your life while still working. You can't just get a degree and get a job then coast for the rest of the time. There are going to be situations that you don't have the answer to and you need to find the answer quickly. I thrive on this type of challenge and environment. Sure there are plenty of days where there is not much to do and you can relax, but those aren't the best days. The days when you are able to get people back up and running in a short amount of time or find the solution to a problem that has stumped you for awhile are the most rewarding by far. There is no such thing as an "easy" job that you can make good money at unless some rich family member gives you a token position doing nothing.

[SloverUT]

Let's think this through.  Are stupid, lazy, and unable to handle stress characteristics that will allow for a successful career in the Air Force?

As someone serving in the Army I am duty bound to say yes. Indeed they are.

[Jeremie Boop]

Originally Posted by golf55

I don't like challenges or learning but I'm good at solving problems. I'm good with computers but not the advance stuff like programming. IT sounds like something I can put up with.

Just being good at solving problems won't make you good at IT. You can't solve a lot of problems in IT unless you are willing to learn new programs and technology. A job is never something that you just "put up with" because it will come through in your attitude in the workplace. If you have a bad attitude as an IT person you won't have a job too long because a lot of interpersonal communication is needed.

Here's a question, how can you enjoy golf if you don't like challenges? Golf in itself is a challenge all the time.

[geauxforbroke]

[golf55]

Originally Posted by Jeremie Boop

Just being good at solving problems won't make you good at IT. You can't solve a lot of problems in IT unless you are willing to learn new programs and technology. A job is never something that you just "put up with" because it will come through in your attitude in the workplace. If you have a bad attitude as an IT person you won't have a job too long because a lot of interpersonal communication is needed.

Here's a question, how can you enjoy golf if you don't like challenges? Golf in itself is a challenge all the time.

I'll learn it if the job requires it.

I like golf!  IT I just don't care for, I see it as a job that pays the bill. I'm going back to school next year or going to get certificate and find me a job

[Spyder]

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Originally Posted by Spyder

Network Administration/Engineering, Software Engineers, top level Technical Support Agents/Analysts/Managers/Supervisors and Project Engineers do not have it easy by any means.

If you can't handle stress, you picked one of the worst fields to even talk about. My advice to you is to quit crying about the life that you made for yourself on this forum and go do something productive. Man up and have some self-respect and dignity and go get a job and become a productive member society. Either that, or grab some fingerless gloves and a cup and go shake it at an intersection and be done with it.

Originally Posted by golf55

I know couple network admin who tells me they don't usually do anything unless the network goes down or they have project to do. Project which they are given 6-8weeks that doesn't take that much time. Just wanted to make sure if that was true or not cause it was few ppl in that field that told me that. Why the hell is everyone giving me life lesson? I asked about IT/computers not a life lesson.  I'm obviously looking for a career and not some job.

I really doubt that every single person is working hard 8hrs a day in a office. I'm just looking for something easy. I couldn't care less if you judge me for that. If you want to work hard 8+hrs a day and become a productive member of society. GOOD FOR YOU! I rather have it easy and enjoy my freaking life.

Please research what a Network Administrator does and is responsible for. In all honesty, you do need a life lesson and you need to grow up. If you don't want condescending responses to your asinine questions, don't ask them.

With the attitude that you're portraying, I would never hire you or even entrust you with a key to my office working for minimum wage. You're trying to figure out how to skate by and that is a piss poor attitude to have. It also shows you lack pride and dedication and essentially want a handout for doing little to nothing.

I encourage you to get a job with the "couple network admin" you know who do absolutely nothing until there is an emergency. The Network Administrators that I am in contact with are very busy and work extremely hard and often have very little time to even engage in conversation that is not related to work. Though, you definitely do not have the drive to earn any credentials and certifications, so you may as well wave that thought goodbye.

With no drive, determination, dedication, work-ethic, self-respect or motivation to make something of yourself through sacrifice and hard work, you will end up at dead-end jobs - period. For anyone who thinks that is harsh to say, it's a reality.

People like this kid are the ones who see people driving fancy cars and hate on them and envy them, thinking they somehow managed to get a big handout or were "luckier" in life than they are. Again, go do something constructive. This is probably the only topic that makes me really bitter, especially when I encounter someone who is openly "okay" with admitting they're not willing to work hard.

[Lihu]

I'll learn it if the job requires it. I like golf!  IT I just don't care for, I see it as a job that pays the bill. I'm going back to school next year or going to get certificate and find me a job

After seeing your other responses, I think you have the perfect personality for IT. You definitely emote the confidence to do a great job at it. Best wishes for your "backup" career. :-)).

[Spyder]

Originally Posted by Slice of Life

Let's not insult real engineers and lump them in with the majority of IT professionals.

Haha.

I'm sorry, I took that as an encrypted "Thank You" for the technology that you use and rely on on a daily basis. You're welcome!

[Slice of Life]

Originally Posted by Spyder

Haha.

I'm sorry, I took that as an encrypted "Thank You" for the technology that you use and rely on on a daily basis. You're welcome!

By thank you, I'm assuming you're thanking me and my people for inventing and improving upon the equipment that your job would be useless without.