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Dropped ball rests at green

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Yesterday I played a club competition round. I had a free drop because of a sprinkler and dropped correctly. The ball came at rest within the rules of distance, but on the green (dropped on the fringe). Is this a correct drop? What if I would have dropped on the green, assuming that part of the green would have been legit as it comes to distance ( not nearer to the hole, one clublenght to the nearest point of entry).
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The npr must not be on the gree, you may not drop it on the green and it may not roll onto the green.

Rules 24-2b and 20-2c

(i) Through the Green : If the ball lies through the green , the player must lift the ball and drop it, without penalty, within one club-length of and not nearer the hole than the nearest point of relief . The nearest point of relief must not be in a hazard or on a putting green . When the ball is dropped within one club-length of the nearest point of relief , the ball must first strike a part of the course at a spot that avoids interference by the immovable obstruction and is not in a hazard and not on a putting green .

A dropped ball must be re-dropped, without penalty, if it:

(iii) rolls onto and comes to rest on a putting green ;

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