How long does is truly take?

[Lihu]

No it's not.

The first year I started, I had to bust my #@^ to get to the level of bad. It was immediately and painfully obvious how difficult and slow improvement would come. Not everyone is like that though. I mean the game is just as hard for everyone, but there seems to be those who make steady progress.

I think part of it is their ability to identify the most damaging weakness or the cause of a bad result  - such as what exactly is causing the shanks -  and working on it until it's improved upon, then systematically identifying the next issue and so on.

While that sort of improvement is difficult, setting it to memory is even more so. I haven't found a way to pull it off.

I think you're right about reducing swing thoughts when you're over the ball.

Or finding a good coach to find these faults for you.

Golf is really hard. It seems to take a lot of work to improve. I even lost my swing in 2 weeks of non-golfing activity, and needed to see Mike to get back on track.

[nevets88]

Obviously it depends and longer than you probably think. IME, I was better able to get body movements grooved with the assistance of using video and mirror work diligently. Which movements to groove - get the best possible instructor for that. I'm still figuring things out but because I better associate what I think I'm doing and what I'm actually am doing, because of video and mirror work, I can learn new pieces better and recall what I've learned more easily. Another thing is interpreting the video. Learning how your swing looks and how it should look. Imho I think using a swing analysis app is mandatory. As well as learning what a swing looks like by looking at good swings. The more swings you see, yours and others, using slow motion and drawing lines and squares and the like, the better you'll get at solving some of your swing problems that your pro previously fixed. tl;dr - video / mirror / good pro / swing analysis app / look at a gazillion swings yours and others.

[Abu3baid]

I have been thinking about this, and yes it probably takes longer than even I think. It has a lot to do with the help you get in line with your talent level.. So, if you have natural talent then you need less instruction and time to improve and if your talent is lacking, well that means you need more instruction + you need to work harder at it. My boss for example had been playing for 20+ years but he has never taken a lesson and he averages around 85 and has broken 80 twice in his life I think.. He still has rounds in the 90s as well! But he is happy where his now, so no need for lessons. If in 3 years of working with evolvr I am unable to break 80 on a consistent basis that is where I will finally admit defeat and know that my level is where ever I end up.. Then again at that point I won't need lessons as much as I would have basically learned everything there is to know about golf and I would only need follow up lessons once every six months or something. I do believe you will only get what you put in though, for me it really helps that I currently have year round golf and I know not everyone is as lucky (but that is a different thread)