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With woods I tend to hit a fade or slice even if I set up for a draw. Irons I can usually draw if I want. Used to score low 80s, now it's more like 90 :/ I've been Playing Golf for: 18 years My current handicap index or average score is: 90 My typical ball flight is: fade The shot I hate or the "miss" I'm trying to reduce/eliminate is: slice Driver swing: [Video]http://youtu.be/gx-Kr6g4e-0[/video] 5 iron swing: [Video]http://youtu.be/VYNje8E-EGc[/video] 7 iron swing: [Video]http://youtu.be/7XuSq-VUr5Q[/video]

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Video now posted :) I updated the original post with YouTube links

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Welcome to the site @mjs16 , couple good resources for you to check out.

- There are some issues with your set-up, shoulders are aimed left, right arm is above the left arm

- You don't create much depth with the arms on the backswing.

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If you're comparing my shoulders to my feet they will look open because I always set my feet to the right to influence a draw.

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If you're comparing my shoulders to my feet they will look open because I always set my feet to the right to influence a draw.


You're not accomplishing that - your shoulders are open to the target line. The shoulders matter more than the feet. Check out the video in Mike's post.

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What do you think is the target line? I'm not asking to be combative I just want to make were on the same page. In the 5 iron video the ball took off dead straight at the intended target which I used the same target line for the driver. If you still think they're open then ok.

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Also, in the driver video in my setup of you pause it it looks like I have a thin white line hanging down from my (chunky) belly. That was a leg on the sign in the distance I was using as my target line.

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Shoulders are aimed left, notice how the right arm is above the left, we can see the left arm from "under" the right arm. It's the opposite in the right pic.

Feet are right but shoulders are left. Where the torso aims is much more important.

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Maybe it's the camera angle b/c knowing where the target was it looks right but ok either way I'll work on check my shoulders when I line up. How do I create depth with the arms in the backswing? Is that I the video? Thanks!

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I know you probably think I'm just being difficult (sorry I just want to understand!) but here is why I have a hard time seeing my shoulders as open. In the pics you can actually see my left shoulder in line with the right. Lower left in the pic is where I highlighted the target, or the line. Sorry, I just want to understand my swing! Not trying to be difficult I promise! Either way whether I was open or not in the pic/video I will be sure to check myself next time. Thanks!!


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Maybe it's the camera angle b/c knowing where the target was it looks right but ok either way I'll work on check my shoulders when I line up.

How do I create depth with the arms in the backswing? Is that I the video? Thanks!

You should try to have the shoulder lined up similar to where the feet are.

You create depth by turning more, turning the feet out, all explained in the video. The pivot "carries" the arms in.

I know you probably think I'm just being difficult (sorry I just want to understand!) but here is why I have a hard time seeing my shoulders as open.

In the pics you can actually see my left shoulder in line with the right.

I don't know what to tell you, I don't know where the target is and I can't guess where it is, I'm just going by your body alignments. With the 5 iron video (I'm not going to go through every swing), your feet are aimed right and your right arm is above the left, that would be a great combo for swinging across the ball. If you want to keep hitting fades, keep doing that ;-)

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Ok, I see what you're saying. My thinking has been to aim the clubs and and shoulders along the line I want the ball to start on, and turn my feet the way I want my swing path to go. My thinking was that pulling my right foot back slightly would help encourage an in to out downswing path Although if that's not a good way too do that, or if it's not accomplishing the task then by all means I'll try something else. Thanks! Is there anything I'm doing right that I should make sure to keep doing?

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Ok, I see what you're saying. My thinking has been to aim the clubs and and shoulders along the line I want the ball to start on, and turn my feet the way I want my swing path to go.

Yes aim the face where you want the ball to start. So if you're hitting a draw, you want the face aimed a little right of the target.

My thinking was that pulling my right foot back slightly would help encourage an in to out downswing path

Although if that's not a good way too do that, or if it's not accomplishing the task then by all means I'll try something else.

It can as long as the body lines go with it. I'm not against it, I'm against conflicting alignments.

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For example, if I want to draw it into a flag in the middle of the green, I'll try to aim the club face and torso a few degrees right of the flag, then my feet a few degrees right of that to try to create the desired path. Sometimes it works great :-) Other times not :-(

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Today for example several shots worked out great! Others would start on but then fade from there. When that happens it's usually high and short

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