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I've been Playing Golf for: 10 years My current handicap index or average score is:6 My typical ball flight is:slight draw/straight The shot I hate or the "miss" I'm trying to reduce/eliminate is:sometimes pull Thank you kindly for any insight [rule] Videos: [VIDEO]http://youtu.be/fBs9QF-WRNA[/VIDEO]
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Welcome to the site. I'd like to see the club load less inside on the takeaway. Your left arm and hands work away from you and this leads to the shaft loading too shallow on the backswing which then steepens it on the downswing, causing you to swing across the ball. I would recommend you hinge the wrists up sooner. Will feel like you're giving a thumbs up during the takeaway. This will also help "soften" the upper back and allow the left shoulder to work more under your chin.

Good drill to check out. I would also check your grip, may be a little palmy.

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Thank you very much for your comments. I try to slow this video down a bit of my swing not many frames unfortunately. It appears I am down the line close to the picture beside me, above, but the other is at an earlier frame than my picture. In the picture beside me are you saying the club went straight up and not Inside. The green line in my picture is confusing, I don't even see the club or club head. So I am down the line but I am hinging too late? Here's what I saw. This is great and I can wait to take a closer look. My swing plane I've always thought was my constant, but I think you are right, on the backswing part I'm delaying the hinge a little too long and that's the inside part. I am striking the ball very solid with accuracy and distance but I want to keep improving. Could this cause the occasional pull? Thank you so much again. Cheers!

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mvmac, yes I see this now. You are excellent! This is exactly what I have been missing. I am extremely happy right now, and I can't wait to improve this. Cheers!
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Could this cause the occasional pull?

Yes for sure. Also next time you film, try to get a face on video.

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Can you also tell me this. Does my ball position look correct? Thanks again

Tough to tell since it's a down the line video.

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Tough to tell since it's a down the line video.


Agree, but that said, it looks back a bit because the front foot appears to be quite a bit closer to the front of the mat.

The ball is pulled quite a bit, but also appears to be fairly low.

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Thank you. I also think I have tendency to play it back sometimes, as in this case. I chose the video because of the slight pull that happens from time to time and just left of my target (seam) with pure strike but I want to eliminate even occasional and ball placement is concern. Also shows I'm a little closed. I will try to get different video angle uploaded when same result happens.
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I practiced tonight and struck the ball very solid and straight, I did work on an earlier hinge.. But I must say, I don't want to mess with my swing too much, I've always been a good ball striker on instinct. I see many people who think too much and ruin their game...
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mvmac, what do you see? I'm trying. This is slo-mo

I know the camera angle isn't exactly the same but it looks pretty similar to the first swing you posted. Club works quite a bit inside, wrists collapse at the top of the backswing, shaft steepens on the downswing, end up hitting slight pulls.

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I was flushing it dead straight like this one every time, so I'm not sure how it's coming inside (which I do see) are you saying im still hinging too late or back not up? I was trying to execute in that one spot. My plane looks right, but I'm not sure what to try to get the lateness out. It's all I'm missing, but honestly I hit it so pure and solid shot after shot today during the video capture practicing so i think I'm just struggling to force the wrist cock early?, or is it the fact I'm hinging back (laying off) instead of straight up. Thanks again so much for responding.
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@Torres9 good to hear you're hitting it straight and solid, I'm just giving you my take because you asked.

My plane looks right, but I'm not sure what to try to get the lateness out. It's all I'm missing, but honestly I hit it so pure and solid shot after shot today during the video capture practicing so i think I'm just struggling to force the wrist cock early?, or is it the fact I'm hinging back (laying off) instead of straight up. Thanks again so much for responding.

I'm not sure what you're seeing with the "plane", but this is what I'm seeing.

Shaft points inside the ball on the downswing even with a camera angle that is more in front of you,

And here's what I mean by hitting slight pulls. Ball is starting left of your body lines. A slight pull can be a playable pattern, ball flight will just be lower and could require more "timing". You'll have days where you hit it great and others where ballstriking is a struggle.

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Youre absolutely right, The plane I was referring to is at the top, but your right it's outside the ball like you said. I do see what your showing I'm slightly closed too. I'm just not sure how to get it like the picture to the right. Do you hinge almost immediately after take away? You're on and can't thank you enough. As you said, I'm hitting it solid now, but I appreciate you're help because this is exactly why things i want to keep improving so I have even better positions for even better consistency long term. Im very determined to fix this, and practice engraining the right plane like on the right you show above.

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@Torres9 , any and all discussion of "plane" is greatly, greatly compromised by the poor camera angles.

Please, please read and adhere to the advice in this: Filming Your Golf Swing . It will only help us - and you - by providing a consistent camera angle. If you're a single digit player as you list, it's even more important to get this right.

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