New Mizuno MP-T Wedges

[AnalogAG]

Hello,
do you know any test or review where they compare the new Mizuno MP-T Wedge against the Spin Milled Vokey Wedge from Titleist?
I would like to know how they perform.

Thank you very much!

[Jaybone]

Here's some talk about them.

http://www.golfreview.com/cat/wedges...4_2941crx.aspx

http://www.hookedongolfblog.com/?p=880

http://www.golflink.com/golf-equipme...sp?product=117

http://www.golf-equipment.golfalot.c...ls.php?id=4452

[iacas]

  Jaybone said:

Here's some talk about them.

Note that those are all the old MP-T model. The new model has a lovely C-Grind sole. We wrote them up just today, in fact (not a review - just the release):

http://thesandtrap.com/bag_drop/mizu..._and_much_more We plan to have a review of them in about 4-6 weeks. Since I've been using Vokey Spin-Milled wedges since before their introduction, a comparison is inevitable.

[AnalogAG]

@ iacas

I am looking forward to this review... thank you!

[Rayy]

  iacas said:

We plan to have a review of them in about 4-6 weeks. Since I've been using Vokey Spin-Milled wedges since before their introduction, a comparison is inevitable.

Nice the first mizuno review Im going to see here. This interes me a lot because im geting 2 new wedges, and Im betwen the mizunos and the Vokeys. I will like to see more reviews of mizuno products especially their irons.

[DBake]

  AnalogAG said:

Hello,

I high suggest you good try some Mizuno wedges, since you play MP-32 irons. Before playing my current wedges MP-R's 52/58, I played Cleveland's just like you. I had trouble with the combo becuase the Cleveland's cast wedge and the Mizuno forged iron. Since switching to mizuno wedges with my irons I have been more consistant since the feel is the same. Doesn't it make since to have a wedge that is forged as well to keep the feel the same, I know it has made a different in my game.

[AnalogAG]

@ DBake

That's the point! I was wondering why there are only a few forged wedges because they say, that you have a better feeling with forged ones.

Despite that, the spin milled are not available in the specs i think i need.
my pitch is 47 degrees and i would like to have my gap at 51 or 52 degrees and the sandwedge at 56 degrees.

do you prefer the true temper wedge shaft oder would you suggest the rifle spinner wedge?

right now i think i would get the projectx for the gap wedge as well an for the sand wedge the rifle spinner wedge so that i have a club for the high spin shots.

[ahnh666]

i'm probably the only person that had mizuno mp-t custom fitted with true temper dynalite stiff shafts...but i like the way it feels like my irons...easy to control.

  AnalogAG said:

@ DBake

[DBake]

  AnalogAG said:

@ DBake

I would keep the shafts the same as well. Keep the feel of your wedges as close as possable as to your irons.

I felt that the 52/56 degree set up were to close together, which is why I went with a 53/58 degree set up to expland my yardages.

[J.P.]

Well, I'll throw in my 2 cents.

I became a Mizuno convert a couple years back with my MP30's. I just love the feel and control they provide!

Naturally I wanted to play the Mizuno Forged wedges as well. I needed a 52, 56, and a 60. I did exhaustive testing between the MP-R's, Cleveland CG10's and Vokey Spin Milled.

After testing, it's just my opinion, but the Vokey's are in a class of their own. I cannot explain why. I am not a big fan of over the top spin - nor gimmic type styles - I just need a precise instrument to execute delicate short game shots.

The others feel like nice golf clubs, and perform well. The Vokeys feel like a finely tuned instrument. I bought a 56.10 and a 60.04 and am happier than ever with the short game shots. The 56.10 is the best out of sand of any sand wedge I have ever owned.

I bought a 52 MP R to see how it would do, and while nice, I just wonder what a Vokey Oil Can 52 could do for me now. (No spin milled in 52*)

I don't want to bring back the Forged versus Cast debate again, that has been debated here more times than anyone wants to remember, but . . .

try several brands of wedges before you buy. . . that way you don't miss something that can surprise you! Don't lock onto the idea that a cast club can't feel sensational!

[DBake]

Another reason why I switch from Cleveland wedges to Mizunos, was the amount of weight in the head. The Mizunos seemed to be a bit more heavier, it took some time to adjust but really love the additional weight. (I am not sure if the Mizunos are heavier, but they seem heavier to me).

[AnalogAG]

Thank you for your replies...

I will test the spin milled vokey and the mp-t anyway but I really like to get different opinions on that topic.

[iacas]

  AnalogAG said:

do you prefer the true temper wedge shaft oder would you suggest the rifle spinner wedge?

Everardo should key in here - I just asked him the same question. I'll write out what I believe his answer would be, but you should wait for his actual answer before fully believing everything I say.

The Project X is a fairly stiff shaft, while a lot of wedge shots are partial, feel-based shots. Even the True Temper "Wedge" flex is actual an S200 shaft - a little more feel, a little lighter, etc. Wedges should have a little more flex in their shafts to help with the partial shots. Not so much with the pitching wedge, but for anything > 48°, either the TT Wedge Flex or the Spinner shaft is usually greatly preferred over the Project X.

  DBake said:

I would keep the shafts the same as well. Keep the feel of your wedges as close as possable as to your irons.

In my opinion, that's bad advice. You don't hit your lob or sand or even your gap wedge in quite the same fashion as your 7-iron. Well over 50% of your wedge shots are likely to be partial shots. Same can't be said for any of your other irons.

  J.P. said:

I don't want to bring back the Forged versus Cast debate again, that has been debated here more times than anyone wants to remember, but . . .

On that, I'll simply say this: if Bob Vokey or Titleist felt that they could sell more clubs by forging wedges instead of casting them, they would. Clearly they're doing something right. Casting technology has improved a lot in the past decade.

In other words, I think the differences between casting and forging are overstated these days.

[tlewsadder]

its all about cleveland wedges. i have hit everything i could get my hands on. nothing feels better than cleveland in my opinion.

to all of you who dopnt play cleveland wedges, "there are a lot of close seconds"

[Flopshot]

there is so much contradiction about this issue that i wouldn't know what advice to take. The best thing to do is go and hit every damn wedge going and see what you like, draw a shortlist and try them ones out a bit more etc etc.



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Originally Posted by DBake View Post
I would keep the shafts the same as well. Keep the feel of your wedges as close as possable as to your irons.


In my opinion, that's bad advice. You don't hit your lob or sand or even your gap wedge in quite the same fashion as your 7-iron. Well over 50% of your wedge shots are likely to be partial shots. Same can't be said for any of your other irons.




I like both these comments they both make sense

so what do you do...