Guy in my club is now teaching/coaching golf...

[MrFlipper]

It appears that he has two caps listed and one that is 2.9 has scores is from last season. The one that has new rounds from 2015 is the 3.9. Probably a mistake by the club? He has 13, 18 hole rounds before the 6-15 post date. Lowest round on either cap was 73.

Wow, his swing sure doesn't look like a "pro" or even a 3.9 index. Looks like a vanity capper deluxe.

I sure don't understand folks who would take lessons from a guy with an obviously non expert looking swing (unless the guy is 80 years old and used to have a good swing). I'd take lessons from Jim Furyk in a second (he has an obvious pro quality swing), this guy is just someone who says do as I say not as I do, which to me ain't worth a crap as a golf teacher. I doubt he can hit it out of his shadow.

Anyone want to take lessons from me, a 10 index? If you did, you're an idiot, if I knew what made people better I'd be better than a 10 index myself.

Have you ever played with him? First thought is you should take your 4 a side from him and bet the ranch

[Valleygolfer]

Wow, his swing sure doesn't look like a "pro" or even a 3.9 index. Looks like a vanity capper deluxe.

I think his cap is accurate. I have seen him quit mid round if things are not working and go practice at the range.

Have you ever played with him? First thought is you should take your 4 a side from him and bet the ranch

I have played with him a few times. He is a consistent, straight short hitter with a flip style swing. It is all timing. Almost like he stops swinging and the club just carries through via momentum.

[Lihu]

[QUOTE name="MrFlipper" url="/t/82843/guy-in-my-club-is-now-teaching-coaching-golf/54#post_1162224"]   Wow, his swing sure doesn't look like a "pro" or even a 3.9 index. Looks like a [U] vanity capper deluxe [/U]. [/QUOTE] I think his cap is accurate. I have seen him quit mid round if things are not working and go practice at the range. [QUOTE name="MrFlipper" url="/t/82843/guy-in-my-club-is-now-teaching-coaching-golf/54#post_1162224"] Have you ever played with him? First thought is you should take your 4 a side from him and bet the ranch :-)   [/QUOTE] I have played with him a few times. He is a consistent, straight short hitter with a flip style swing. It is all timing. Almost like he stops swinging and the club just carries through via momentum.

Sounds like cheating to quit mid round. . .his cap might not be right. Otoh, it's tough to fake a 2.9. . .

[Golfingdad]

Sounds like cheating to quit mid round

If he "quit mid round when things aren't working," then who is he cheating?

[Lihu]

[QUOTE name="Lihu" url="/t/82843/guy-in-my-club-is-now-teaching-coaching-golf/30_30#post_1162276"] Sounds like cheating to quit mid round[/QUOTE] If he "quit mid round when things aren't working," then who is he cheating?

[quote name="Golfingdad" url="/t/82843/guy-in-my-club-is-now-teaching-coaching-golf/30#post_1162280"][QUOTE name="Lihu" url="/t/82843/guy-in-my-club-is-now-teaching-coaching-golf/30_30#post_1162276"] Sounds like cheating to quit mid round[/QUOTE] If he "quit mid round when things aren't working," then who is he cheating? [/quote] Good point, maybe just his students?

[iacas]

If he "quit mid round when things aren't working," then who is he cheating?

He's still "cheating" his handicap. Cheating doesn't always mean you're screwing someone out of something - he's screwing himself out of an accurate handicap index. If you're on your way to shooting an 83 and you don't post the number, it's a vanity handicap. You're still "cheating" or "gaming" the system. It's an inaccurate handicap index.

[Valleygolfer]

He's still "cheating" his handicap. Cheating doesn't always mean you're screwing someone out of something - he's screwing himself out of an accurate handicap index. If you're on your way to shooting an 83 and you don't post the number, it's a vanity handicap. You're still "cheating" or "gaming" the system. It's an inaccurate handicap index.

It doesn't look like he's done it lately since he has 13 rounds in June prior to the 15th revision.

[BuckeyeNut]

No golfer should have 2 indexes, but it happens.  IE.......A golfer has a membership at multiple golf clubs and they post scores from each club at only that club.   By rule......all rounds played should be posted at each course so he/she is wrong for not doing so.   It does seem strange to me that he keeps a HC being a teaching pro.  Do teaching pro's keep HCs??  LOL

As for the swing?   it's not pretty...that's for sure!  With that said, what training has he had?   Is he a certified teaching professional?  There are A LOT of teaching pros that aren't very good golfers because they spend time teaching and not playing!   If a teacher is busy teaching, his personal game will suffer.   All they need to do is pass a playing test by scoring a couple of 75s and they're in. After years of teaching, the game will go downhill from there!!   IMO.....the average teaching pro will do well to play to a 2-4HC.  yes, some can really play....but this is more the exception than the rule    It's only the select few can play a lot and keep their games in shape to play in the big national PGA club-pro competitions.  ....and then you wonder, how do they have the time to take care of their members, if they're out playing all that golf!! LOL

[Valleygolfer]

No golfer should have 2 indexes, but it happens.  IE.......A golfer has a membership at multiple golf clubs and they post scores from each club at only that club.   By rule......all rounds played should be posted at each course so he/she is wrong for not doing so.   It does seem strange to me that he keeps a HC being a teaching pro.  Do teaching pro's keep HCs??  LOL As for the swing?   it's not pretty...that's for sure!  With that said, what training has he had?   Is he a certified teaching professional?  There are A LOT of teaching pros that aren't very good golfers because they spend time teaching and not playing!   If a teacher is busy teaching, his personal game will suffer.   All they need to do is pass a playing test by scoring a couple of 75s and they're in. After years of teaching, the game will go downhill from there!!   IMO.....the average teaching pro will do well to play to a 2-4HC.  yes, some can really play....but this is more the exception than the rule    It's only the select few can play a lot and keep their games in shape to play in the big national PGA club-pro competitions.  ....and then you wonder, how do they have the time to take care of their members, if they're out playing all that golf!! LOL

By rule the scores should be posted at the course they are played? Since when? Ghin app allows you to post with your phone and you can log in at a home computer as well. Second, I did not see any formal swing training on his website. His about me was a story about how he came to play golf.... in a way...

[iacas]

It doesn't look like he's done it lately since he has 13 rounds in June prior to the 15th revision.

I was more answering @Lihu and @Golfingdad 's discussion rather than talking about this specific guy, of course.

No golfer should have 2 indexes, but it happens.  IE.......A golfer has a membership at multiple golf clubs and they post scores from each club at only that club.   By rule......all rounds played should be posted at each course so he/she is wrong for not doing so.

You can use the same GHIN # at multiple courses.

As for the swing?   it's not pretty...that's for sure!  With that said, what training has he had?   Is he a certified teaching professional?

FWIW, most teaching pros aren't very "certified" either - I mean, they're not "trained" very much in the golf swing or the theory of the golf swing, etc.

All they need to do is pass a playing test by scoring a couple of 75s and they're in.

Well, technically, that's only for PGA members. There are PGA apprentices who haven't passed the PAT yet, and of course, if you're not in the PGA, there's no requirement whatsoever. Someone who has never played golf before can claim he's a golf instructor. There's really not certification process or anything.

[Valleygolfer]

FWIW, most teaching pros aren't very "certified" either - I mean, they're not "trained" very much in the golf swing or the theory of the golf swing, etc.

A little like personal trainers...