My Swing (PingLuvR)

[PingLuvR]

I started some lessons in February.  I started off with a really over the top swing.  Ive been working on it and now im trying to stop sliding.  I'm starting to hit the ball better,  but still have a long way to go.  What effects on the shot will sliding have?  I do tend to blade a few balls and also push them right.  

 

http://www.v1sports.com/Academy/include/player.asp?academy=GGXY&accountid=2100624&swingid=3300841

[iacas]

Uhhhh, you won't like what I have to say… but I think that's a horrible lesson.

The best players in the world slide their hips forward during the downswing.

Your swing on the left looks a lot better than your swing on the right:

Also… you sway your hips back in the backswing.

I'll rename this to your Member Swing topic and move it to the appropriate forum.

[PingLuvR]

That's for the feedback.  One thing though,  when I am sliding forward the 6",  it seems I am now way behind the ball at impact.  Seems almost impossible to have the club square.  This is probably why I blade so many balls and push them right.  Is this correct?  I think that right leg needs to post up and hips rotate around.  

[PingLuvR]

Also,  thanks for pointing out the swaying too on backswing.  Does keeping the weight on the inside of my right foot stop this?  

Edited April 29, 2017 by PingLuvR

[RandallT]

Here's some good info on keeping a centered hip turn (i.e., not swaying), in case you haven't seen this. Welcome to swing threads- hope you gain some good info that supplements lessons. Occasionally, people put down things from their instructor that the experts here feel they simply must intervene (to keep you from going down a wrong path). This seems to be one of those cases. 

In general, however, we mostly support each other and give supplementing info. Every swing thread is different, so feel free to let folks know if you want or don't want a lot of feedback, as you go along. You may decide not to use it at all, except for this issue, and that's cool too- but from experience, I've gotten a lot from my own, so I encourage others to continue as well.

[PingLuvR]

8 minutes ago, RandallT said:

Here's some good info on keeping a centered hip turn (i.e., not swaying), in case you haven't seen this. Welcome to swing threads- hope you gain some good info that supplements lessons. Occasionally, people put down things from their instructor that the experts here feel they simply must intervene (to keep you from going down a wrong path). This seems to be one of those cases. 

In general, however, we mostly support each other and give supplementing info. Every swing thread is different, so feel free to let folks know if you want or don't want a lot of feedback, as you go along. You may decide not to use it at all, except for this issue, and that's cool too- but from experience, I've gotten a lot from my own, so I encourage others to continue as well.

Thanks.  Appreciate it.  The more feed back the better.  I really want to get it figured out.  

[iacas]

32 minutes ago, PingLuvR said:

That's for the feedback.  One thing though,  when I am sliding forward the 6",  it seems I am now way behind the ball at impact.  Seems almost impossible to have the club square.  This is probably why I blade so many balls and push them right.  Is this correct?  I think that right leg needs to post up and hips rotate around.  

Feel ain't real.

Golfers will often create axis tilt one way or the other. If they don't push their hips forward, often they tip the head back. If they don't do that, they'll often bend their elbows and flip.

And no, I don't think that's why you fade and thin the ball.

26 minutes ago, PingLuvR said:

Also,  thanks for pointing out the swaying too on backswing.  Does keeping the weight on the inside of my right foot stop this?  

See the topic I linked to. I don't know what feel will work for you. Just make the proper mechanics and see how you feel when you do it.

[PingLuvR]

Thanks again.  I'll check it out for sure.  

I does feel completely different when I post up the left leg...in a good way.  And I feel my hips do rotate better too.  Looking forward to hitting some balls this way.  Raining all weekend here in St.Louis unfortunately.  

[iacas]

8 minutes ago, PingLuvR said:

I does feel completely different when I post up the left leg...in a good way.  And I feel my hips do rotate better too.

What do you mean by this?

To be clear, do not do what's suggested in the video in the first post. I'd try to get my money back if I were you.

[PingLuvR]

Every video I have been watching since my lesson shows the left leg "posting up".  I clearly am not doing that in the first video.  You can't be consistent if you are sliding 6" like I was. I totally agree with my instructor.  I also agree with these guys  since this is exactly what I am doing wrong.  

 

 

 

Myandmygolf guys are awesome imo.  Here is their video on stopping the sliding 

 

 

 

Edited April 29, 2017 by PingLuvR

[iacas]

4 minutes ago, PingLuvR said:

Every video I have been watching since my lesson shows the left leg "posting up".  I clearly am not doing that in the first video.  You can't be consistent if you are sliding 6" like I was. I totally agree with my instructor.  I also agree with these guys since this is exactly what I am doing wrong.  

I disagree completely with your instructor, and can post countless photos - like I did of Tiger Woods and Ben Hogan - that show otherwise.

But in case you're more of a video guy…

What do you think?

[PingLuvR]

I don't see any sliding in the video at all.  Looks nothing like my first video at all.  My video shows my knees moving toward the target and no hip rotation.  

[jamo]

A question for you: can you find a single good golfer who has this position on the right? 

The answer is that you won't be able to, because good golfers move their hips forward during the downswing. 

Spinning your hips more and not sliding them is only going to make your over the top slice worse. 

[PingLuvR]

7 minutes ago, jamo said:

A question for you: can you find a single good golfer who has this position on the right? 

The answer is that you won't be able to, because good golfers move their hips forward during the downswing. 

Spinning your hips more and not sliding them is only going to make your over the top slice worse. 

So the 2 videos I posted above are wrong?  I'm really confused now.  I thought the idea was to not sway and slide?  

[jamo]

3 minutes ago, PingLuvR said:

So the 2 videos I posted above are wrong?  I'm really confused now.  I thought the idea was to not sway and slide?  

Swaying forward as you go into the downswing is a good thing. It's what helps you hit down on the ball and make solid contact, and it tends to make you swing out at the ball instead of coming over the top. That's what the videos @iacas posted were demonstrating. 

(Swaying backwards on the backswing is different. You don't really want to sway on the backswing.)

You got some bad instruction from whoever you saw in those videos. 

[iacas]

57 minutes ago, PingLuvR said:

I don't see any sliding in the video at all.

You see the red lines I drew on their hips?

57 minutes ago, PingLuvR said:

Looks nothing like my first video at all.

Really?

Your hips and knees are "back" farther than most PGA Tour players because you sway back in the backswing:

57 minutes ago, PingLuvR said:

My video shows my knees moving toward the target and no hip rotation.  

Your hips open up. They're pointing to the left of the camera at the top of the backswing, then right of the camera on at impact.

19 minutes ago, PingLuvR said:

So the 2 videos I posted above are wrong?  I'm really confused now.  I thought the idea was to not sway and slide?  

Two general statements that are true:

1. Swaying back in the backswing is bad.
2. Sliding forward in the downswing is good.

You sway back, then your lesson (incorrectly) teaches you to not slide forward.

[PingLuvR]

Wow,  that is VERY interesting.  I can definitely fix the swaying on the back swing now that I know I am doing it.  But one question I have... Most instructional videos and lots of golfers do show the left leg posting up and not sliding.  Is this true?  So sliding isnt bad if the other parts of your swing are in propper position?  

[iacas]

3 minutes ago, PingLuvR said:

Wow,  that is VERY interesting.  I can definitely fix the swaying on the back swing now that I know I am doing it.  But one question I have... Most instructional videos and lots of golfers do show the left leg posting up and not sliding.  Is this true?  So sliding isnt bad if the other parts of your swing are in propper position?  

Unfortunately, there's a lot of really shitty golf instruction out there.

Look at the videos. Those are the game's best players.

Look at what good golfers DO, not what they say they do, and not what most instructors say they do.