2015 GBB 3wood vs Epic Sub Zero?

[cape cod beachfront golfer]

Has anyone played the GBB and then moved on to the Epic S Zero? What were your results? I can get the GBB for 1/2 the price of the Epic SZero. Both used. Both will be adjustable which is important to me as I want to play it as a 16* 4wood to fit my club gaps. Super light weight crown of the Epic concerns me. Is it durable?  Shaft in the GBB would be Kuro Kage likely the black tini model in regular. I know nothing about the Epic choices. Hazrdus(Sp) from reviews looks like it could be too low launching for me? I want carry out of the 3wood not roll out. Suggestions welcomed. Thank you.

[iacas]

I still just have the GBB 3-wood. I love the Epic driver, but I don't see the point in replacing what may be the best 3-wood I've ever used.

[cape cod beachfront golfer]

Sounds good to me... Tests I saw (online of course) showed minimal distance gains. I hit the ball straight so I am not looking for crazy forgiveness. Any experience with Kuro Kage black tini? I have a Silver tini and am disappointed. Seems to lack that extra kick you get out of some shafts. I have an older model KK meant for an Adams club that is far livelier!

[Typhoon92]

Although it's not " 3 wood vs 3 wood"...u would pick up 2 yards for $500...

https://mygolfspy.com/callaway-epic-vs-biggest-big-bertha/

[cape cod beachfront golfer]

In the article Biggest Big Bertha vs Epic driver... the yardage gained was 20 yards not 2 for the Epic over the BBB. A 20 yard longer drive puts a much more accurate club in my hands for my 2nd shot. Combining the yardage gained on drives with a longer carrying 3 wood (say 8-10 yards longer?) could gain me 2 to 3 shots a round. Key for me is having the extra carry with the 3wood as most of the courses I play are well bunkered and do not always allow shots to roll on. Besides... this time I have promised my wife I WILL trade in a club to buy a "new" used one. I think that means I have her approval?

[Typhoon92]

On 12/22/2017 at 4:11 PM, cape cod beachfront golfer said:

In the article Biggest Big Bertha vs Epic driver... the yardage gained was 20 yards not 2 for the Epic over the BBB. A 20 yard longer drive puts a much more accurate club in my hands for my 2nd shot. Combining the yardage gained on drives with a longer carrying 3 wood (say 8-10 yards longer?) could gain me 2 to 3 shots a round. Key for me is having the extra carry with the 3wood as most of the courses I play are well bunkered and do not always allow shots to roll on. Besides... this time I have promised my wife I WILL trade in a club to buy a "new" used one. I think that means I have her approval?

That's 20 yards increase over 20 years of drivers between the 1997 Biggest Big Bertha and the 2017 epic driver.  Comes out to 1 yard per year.  If u had a 2015 club and were looking at a 2017...that's where I was saying u gain 2 yards.

 

If u are talking a 10 year old GBB vs New Epic then 10 yards would be nice.

Edited December 23, 2017 by Typhoon92

[cape cod beachfront golfer]

Okay, now I follow your logic...  A yard a year.... if only life or golf were so simple.

With any luck at all I will end up with three clubs (GBB driver, Callaway mini driver, and a 3wood all using the same adapter. Thus I can swap shafts around a bit... would have a combination of 2 in play in my bag... one club in the penalty box at home.

[Typhoon92]

That's the good thing about the adapters!  I have an M1 and M2 driver and it's fun to swap things around.  

[billchao]

12 hours ago, cape cod beachfront golfer said:

With any luck at all I will end up with three clubs (GBB driver, Callaway mini driver, and a 3wood all using the same adapter. Thus I can swap shafts around a bit... would have a combination of 2 in play in my bag... one club in the penalty box at home.

I've done that with the Alpha 815 set. Here's my observations:

The 3W never comes out of the bag - it's the only club I can hit reliably off the deck out of the three and swapping in a longer and lighter shaft just to try the 3W shaft in the driver didn't make any sense to me.

The driver and mini driver got swapped around for a bit. I was better with both clubs using the shorter mini driver shaft, but ultimately was better with the driver overall so I installed the mini driver shaft in my driver and the mini driver sits in my basement.

The only other thing I wanted to try was the heavier 3W shaft in my driver, but I never got around to getting another 3W and now I have a Ping G400 driver that I hit well so the shaft shenanigans have ended.

[cape cod beachfront golfer]

I have had wonderful success with the XR 5wood.  I would go for the XR 3Wood with the same Project X LZ shaft BUT I really do want the ability to swap shafts in and out of the three clubs. I even have an extra adapter should I find a great deal on a 4th shaft.  Not sure I would have good luck pulling shaft from adapter so I prefer to do the swap with adapter in place.  I did cut the driver length shaft down a little over an inch. In the end it is all about finding the allusive "right feel".  And keeps me amused...  

BTW I am not ready to give up on the mini. I played it as my driver for 75% of my rounds last year. Of 90 score-able rounds I had 6  74 and under, and 60  75 to 79 so it served me well. Tried and tried to use it as a strong 3wood (even upped it to 16*) off the deck but never had consistent success. This year I want the GBB to be my every day driver.  And maybe a GBB 3wood as well! Which I hope to play at 16* as a 4wood. Will have to wait and see.  Merry Christmas to all... We are expecting 7-9 inches of snow here in Upstate NY on Christmas Day.

[inthecup]

I would be concerned about the sub zero.  It is a low spin head.  If your spin is naturally low, on miss hits the spin could drop to an unacceptable level and the ball falls out of the sky. 

I experience it with a Ping LS driver.  Low spin is not necessarily better.

[cape cod beachfront golfer]

Your low spin comment certainly has some merit. I want carry, not roll. to get to bunkered greens. Right now GBB 3wood with Kuro Kage Black shaft is what I am searching for. KK Silver shaft I have does not get the carry I want.