Swing Speeds Irons vs Driver

[Hacker James]

I've been getting familiar with the swing speed radar I recently purchased, and things are getting pretty much settled in.  Anemic as my SS is, I am getting readings of around 65 with six iron and up to about 75 max with driver. I am hitting into a net and I suspect I am holding off a little with driver and I believe that the net is sort of a visual "barrier" sort of thing and I am a little hesitant. . This seems to be about right as from what I have read, the conversion  with SS to yardage (carry) for a driver is 2.4 times the SS, and for 6 iron about 1.7 times.  This would put me in the 180 yard range carry with driver (high end). Am I missing anything?  Also, someone posted, that the portable monitors such as the SSR reads 5 or 6 MPH slower than Trackman or Mevo. Then again, some report the opposite.

[Typhoon92]

The barrier thing is real.  We have Sims and nets at work and I'm fine with irons but not driver.

A lot of difference in readings amoung different monitors.  Trackman indoors is tough because u need enough space or it's off.  The SSR I have found to be pretty accurate.  I have had mine for a while as have a few of my LD friends.

Right now I find indoors the GC2 Quad to be dead on.

[boogielicious]

On 12/10/2018 at 3:40 PM, Hacker James said:

I've been getting familiar with the swing speed radar I recently purchased, and things are getting pretty much settled in.  Anemic as my SS is, I am getting readings of around 65 with six iron and up to about 75 max with driver. I am hitting into a net and I suspect I am holding off a little with driver and I believe that the net is sort of a visual "barrier" sort of thing and I am a little hesitant. . This seems to be about right as from what I have read, the conversion  with SS to yardage (carry) for a driver is 2.4 times the SS, and for 6 iron about 1.7 times.  This would put me in the 180 yard range carry with driver (high end). Am I missing anything?  Also, someone posted, that the portable monitors such as the SSR reads 5 or 6 MPH slower than Trackman or Mevo. Then again, some report the opposite.

Try taking it to a range and see if the numbers are the same. I've noticed it too with my MEVO. Into my net I am averaging around 3 mph less. But that may be due to the short distance the MEVO is reading verses at the range.

[Lihu]

51 minutes ago, boogielicious said:

Try taking it to a range and see if the numbers are the same. I've noticed it too with my MEVO. Into my net I am averaging around 3 mph less. But that may be due to the short distance the MEVO is reading verses at the range.

Interesting? Could there be some mental block where your subconscious doesn’t want to put a hole through the net?

Best thing is to go to a golf store with a sassy salesman saying you don’t hit as far as you think then really really go after it 😂

[Hacker James]

56 minutes ago, boogielicious said:

Try taking it to a range and see if the numbers are the same. I've noticed it too with my MEVO. Into my net I am averaging around 3 mph less. But that may be due to the short distance the MEVO is reading verses at the range.

Good idea. One more thing is, when I concocted my own version of the speed swing, I made up 2 sticks, one heavy and one light. On the light one, I used my Hacker Whacker but failed to take into account that it was a cut down 3 wood shaft so that it is about 4 inches shorter assembled. This makes the readings more or less moot. Still, I can measure improvement, just not representative of perceived distance.

Best to purchase the real thing.

11 minutes ago, Lihu said:

Interesting? Could there be some mental block where your subconscious doesn’t want to put a hole through the net?

 

little chance of that given the net is heavy duty archery net, but I do have apprehension of going OVER the net if I happen to sky the driver (which I have done in the past). This forces me to stand closer which really messes up the perception. @boogielicious has the right idea. Also as you stated, I should get the real thing. I saw one on ebay for $160. I think it is the one for seniors which may or may not be more appropriate.

[Lihu]

On 12/10/2018 at 12:40 PM, Hacker James said:

I am getting readings of around 65 with six iron and up to about 75 max with driver.

The ratios are not too far off. I think I’m about the same ratio with 6i and driver.

 

On 12/10/2018 at 12:40 PM, Hacker James said:

Also, someone posted, that the portable monitors such as the SSR reads 5 or 6 MPH slower than Trackman or Mevo. Then again, some report the opposite.

I think it depends upon placement of the sensor. 5-6mph is a little high. My Mevo and SSR when placed precisely are about the same for SS over a ten swing average taking out the misreads.

[Hacker James]

26 minutes ago, Lihu said:

The ratios are not too far off. I think I’m about the same ratio with 6i and driver.

 

I think it depends upon placement of the sensor. 5-6mph is a little high. My Mevo and SSR when placed precisely are about the same for SS over a ten swing average taking out the misreads.

using the SSR, my readings are pretty much the same regardless of placement, but the "angle" seems to have a noticeable effect. When I had the Swing Caddie, it would not register most swings. The unit was probably defective e as I read a lot of reviews depicting this. I sent it back and got the SSR and despite it not having as much functionability , I prefer its simplicity. 

[Lihu]

16 minutes ago, Hacker James said:

using the SSR, my readings are pretty much the same regardless of placement, but the "angle" seems to have a noticeable effect. When I had the Swing Caddie, it would not register most swings. The unit was probably defective e as I read a lot of reviews depicting this. I sent it back and got the SSR and despite it not having as much functionability , I prefer its simplicity. 

The angular placement has a direct bearing on the accuracy due to the directional nature of the measurement and something called “cosine error” which simply means that the angle of the sensor is tilted by “theta” degrees and the error in reading is the “cosine” of that angle times the measurement.

Edited December 23, 2018 by Lihu

[Hacker James]

5 minutes ago, Lihu said:

The angular placement has a direct bearing on the accuracy due to the directional nature of the measurement and something called “cosine error” which simply means that the angle of the sensor is tilted by “theta” degrees and the error in reading is the “cosine” of that angle times the measurement.

ah...a very "tanget"able observation.

[Vinsk]

1 hour ago, Hacker James said:

ah...a very "tanget"able observation.

Tangent*

[Hacker James]

4 hours ago, Vinsk said:

Tangent*

uh huh....spelt it rong