
golfernc
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Where to start in a new set of clubs?
golfernc replied to Chris Stewart's topic in Clubs, Grips, Shafts, Fitting
Great advice! I would suggest the same. -
1. Make more putts, from inside 10 feet 2. Practice 3 times a week 3. Make more putts inside 10!! ahhh
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Driver Help - "Right Way" ?
golfernc replied to johnclayton1982's topic in Instruction and Playing Tips
Great advice, and glad to hear your hitting it well! I believe that the reason why many teachers tell students to Hit up with driver is to compensate for the lack of loft in the club. Its why so many people like their 3 wood and hate the driver. The 3 wood has much more loft. Tour players on average hit down with a low lofted driver, if the average golfer tried to do this with the same lofted driver they would have terrible ballflight ( if they had a slower ss). I have tried that and mine goes knee high. So to compensate for the if you hit up on the ball your adding loft. Why not just get a more lofted driver, instead of changing a good swing? Trying to master one swing in golf is hard enough, let alone two! I still cant believe that most people play the same loft as tour players, then wonder why they are so inconsistent. Maybe the reason why the LPGA on average hits up on the ball is because they have too strong of equipment? Growing up I bet many girls are given their dads or brothers old sticks, which were probably really strong....so they had to learn a way to hit them. If they didn't hit up on them they I bet got bad ball flight. I don't think that means that hitting up on it is a good thing, I think its a compensation. I could be totally wrong..lol -
Dicks Sporting goods Launch Monitor
golfernc replied to MattM's topic in Instruction and Playing Tips
Interesting, Anyone know who makes the launch monitors for Dicks? Seems like they use two different companies a radar, and a camera based.? Or maybe one company makes both? -
13* 3Wood? or 13* Driver?
golfernc replied to cape cod beachfront golfer's topic in Clubs, Grips, Shafts, Fitting
My opinion is that the reason why many people hit their 3/5 woods more consistently then driver is the loft on the club. Maybe the reason you started to lift the ball with driver is because at some point you saw your ball flight low, and you compensated for that by adding loft in your swing. Why else would you be "lifting" your club. You also most likely will fall more backwards and never transfer your weight properly. ( like hitting a lob in tennis and falling back vs hitting a forehand and following through). If you gave yourself more loft in the driver, then you can let the driver do the lifting part and you can just try to propel the ball forward...not up. I do not think most people should be playing the same loft as tour players ....simply because they do not have the same force as they do. I am not sure if this relates to you or not? Good luck! -
Independent clubmakers versus big manufacturers
golfernc replied to MiniBlueDragon's topic in Clubs, Grips, Shafts, Fitting
Looks great! I'm surprised that its also pured....that's sweet! -
A Fitting can vary from fitter to fitter. Most of the time you get what the above poster described. Some people fit statically, some fit dynamically. Things to look for in a fitting- Will you be hitting off of a lie board? This is the correct way to get your true lie angle. How many combinations will the fitter use? The more the better. If they only have a few, then your really limited to what you even can be fit into. Some big companies have fitting carts with 50-200 options, while others like Henry Griffitts have up to 4000. How long will it take? If they say it takes 15 Min's, I would find someone else. Do they evaluate your swing, looking also at your current clubs? This is important to understand why you swing the way you do, if you need to correct anything before getting fit, and if you can adjust your old clubs...or get rid of them. A good fitter/teacher is ideal. Will you be hitting indoor on a simulator or outdoor on a range, or both? If indoor on a simulator, you want to make sure its an accurate one. There are some out there that do not measure correctly, so it will give poor readings. You need to either have a very accurate Sim, or be on a range to test ball flight.Ideally both. Will the clubs you will be hitting be the exact same specs as your receive? Check out the tolerances, they vary from each manufacturer. Make sure you actually get to hit the clubs with all the combinations put together Do they fit dynamically or statically? Should be the same price, but dynamic fitting is much more accurate. Those are some key things to look for in a good fitting. Good Luck!
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Independent clubmakers versus big manufacturers
golfernc replied to MiniBlueDragon's topic in Clubs, Grips, Shafts, Fitting
They actually don't sound that bad, ( it could be a lot worse) if you wanted to you could adjust the 7 iron. It might tend to go right on you. ( or if it's your favorite club, the other clubs could be adjusted to match that.) If you were going to do anything else with those clubs I would check the swing weights and total weights. Good luck! Oh and its great that your club pro will let you use the club and tweak it as much as needed, sounds like a good option. I would recommend getting fit using a lie board. -
Independent clubmakers versus big manufacturers
golfernc replied to MiniBlueDragon's topic in Clubs, Grips, Shafts, Fitting
Couple things to note- There is a balance between fitting and building....if you are getting a good fitter, but not a good builder then you might not even end up with the clubs you were fit to. If you get a good builder that is not a good fitter, then you might end up with clubs that do not actually "fit" your swing. A great fitter/builder will do a dynamic fit on you. A plus to that would be, someone who also checks to make sure that you are balance. Giving lessons if needed to correct compensations you may have developed as well. This insures you are not fit you to a poor motion. ( this is very important because once your fit to clubs, you are somewhat stuck in that swing). Many people underestimate how much clubs dictate what you do in your swing. In that fitting you should be hitting the exact clubs you will be buying, while hitting off of a lie board and watching ball flight. This way you will feel confident with what your getting. -Tolerances- Big manufactures do not have tight tolerances, so the clubs your actually fit for can be all over the place ( somewhat makes the whole "fitting" pointless if you don't actually get what you ordered) Good builders should be able to show you (by measuring) that your clubs are exactly what you ordered when you pick them up. -Guarantees- You want to go to someone who stands behind their work, a good builder will. A good manufacturer will as well. Some big name companies will adjust lie and loft for life, which is a plus. - Price- Honestly you can get a good builder to work with your budget, and get you a quality set of clubs for the same price or cheaper then big brands. If you are thinking about getting custom clubs, make sure your getting fit properly and then built properly. If one of those is missing, you might as well grab a cheap set of clubs off the rack. -
Great Article on a great guy. Check out the video on the link as well....he is pretty amazing! http://www.whptv.com/news/local/story/Cancer-continues-to-challenge-golf-trick-shot-star/CI124VbDA02M2NYTnkZV1A.cspx
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Just because she is tall does not mean she needs an extra long shaft. Sometimes taller players will play more of a "standard" length, and sometimes a shorter player will play a longer shaft... It all depends on how they can control the length. Usually people have a harder time hitting the sweet spot with longer shafts, so you want to determine length by having her actually hitting different length shafts. Regarding loft.. If your not going to have her get dynamically fit, then I would say to get her the most lofted club you can find. The brand is not as important...Loft is what makes a big difference in a driver. Many women can have a hard time because they are using low lofted clubs, then trying to lift the ball up...which in turn makes for a weak swing.( this goes for men as well.) It's better to caution on the side of too much loft vs too little of loft. I would experiment with woods... Does she hit a 7 wood well?A 3 wood well? If so then check the loft on that club and try to find a driver with that amount of loft on it. ( just a side note... Clubs sometimes are not always what they say they are.... So get the club checked out for true loft)...a local club builder can usually do that. I would highly recommend getting her dynamically fit, if she is planning on playing a lot of golf. This way she can spend her time working on improving instead of spending her time trying to figure out how to make Ill fitted clubs "work" for her. The above advice is if you do not want her to get fit, and are just trying to find a club that's decent.
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It depends. You only buy what you use, so you can customize whatever you want. So if you don't hit a 3 iron you don't have to buy one. They usually end up being right around what you would pay for a custom set of the bigger name clubs.(800 and up) depending on how many your getting. They all come SST pure as well, which is pretty cool.( only company to do that) The bad/and good thing is you have to get fit by a certified HG fitter. So if you don't have one in your area, your out of luck.
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My Custom Fit and Built Edel Putter
golfernc replied to iacas's topic in Clubs, Grips, Shafts, Fitting
Just got my Edel putter, and love it! I want your tan cover... Mine is black! Did you have that option when you ordered yours? -
Tom Wishon on being fit for clubs
golfernc replied to glock35ipsc's topic in Clubs, Grips, Shafts, Fitting
Your correct you should use a lie board and impact tape...that would make it a dynamic fitting. A static fitting can't determine lie angle, length, flex, or loft correctly. So when I say that static fitting and buying off the rack are the same, I mean they will produce the same results...its a guessing game. -
Tom Wishon on being fit for clubs
golfernc replied to glock35ipsc's topic in Clubs, Grips, Shafts, Fitting
I agree 100 percent. Most people think that because the club company comes out with a new driver that they will hit it straight...its almost the same club head as last yr, just with different paint and a lot of marketing. I told this to someone and they responded with, "well that's bull**** because I got the new "whatever" club and its the exact same specs of my older one...I hit it farther and straighter." We checked the specs, and the newer one was about 3 degrees off of what his last one was ( more loft) and the shaft was weaker. That's why he hit it better, not because the new head. This day and age its about fitting. You can go buy a new driver and even if you hit it well on the range, the one you actually get can be completely different because of the tolerances of the bigger companies. Just because its says your hitting a 6 iron or 9 degree driver or whatever does not mean you actually are. You cant fault the bigger companies because they just are not able to dial in each club...it would cost way to much money and they have stockholders. So as long as people know that its fine. They can make an educated decision on what they want to do. I think Tom Wishon, is just trying to give the consumers the information. Does he benefit from it...yes. What does that matter though? Its not like there's a lot to argue there? Do custom fit clubs help you... yeah if fit properly ....would it be better to have clubs that are actually what you order... yeah.....do big box companies have low tolerances... yeah. Its not like this is some radical idea......people have been saying this for a long time. -
Tom Wishon on being fit for clubs
golfernc replied to glock35ipsc's topic in Clubs, Grips, Shafts, Fitting
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Wow it seems like a lot of info for a beginner... Most of the time, many of the things people do in their swing are a result of one main problem...if you just work on fixing the results then there will always be 2-3 things to "fix". Another issue about giving someone that much stuff to think about, is this.... Guy gets up and remembers he needs to put his weight here, then when he is taking it back he needs to do this, then he needs to do this to transfer his weight....OK so now he shanks it....which one did he do wrong? When he hits it good...which one did he do correct? Its hard to learn golf when you have no idea why your ball goes the way it does....so I would say just have the person work on one thing at a time, and if their balance is off....that's what I would work on first. :) Also evaluating their clubs is crucial to be able to identify the root of the problem...if the guy has clubs that are 5 degrees to upright for him, then he will be doing things in his swing to compensate for that....so you have to know that you cant teach this person to make changes in their swing, if the clubs penalize them for a good motion. They will always revert back to what their ball flight is telling them. Make sure the clubs are rewarding them with proper ball flight.
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Ok I would give you this advice.....The average tour player hits down on a driver. So think of it this way, why would you want to use your power propelling the ball up, and not forward. If you driver does not have enough loft on it then you will start to compensate to add loft to it....so instead get a club that does that work for you. One of the reasons you could be missing the sweet spot, is because to hit up on the ball you kind of have to be falling a little back. If your falling backwards then it makes it much harder to make solid contact. So its fairly simple, you driver needs to change. You might find that you need even higher then the 10.5 to be able to have that same swing throughout and be rewarded for it with ballflight. Tiger uses a 10.5 and has a ton of ss behind it, so unless you have the same power as tiger...then that is most likely to low.
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driver hitting ground before ball
golfernc replied to itching4scratch's topic in Instruction and Playing Tips
beau f- try using a 3 wood when doing this, it has more loft....and most people need more loft. If your successful at it, then try it with your driver....if it slices hard on you, then its actually a good thing, as you know you were doing the correct thing in your swing. ( you will just need to change the driver) Good Luck! -
I would agree with everyone else. Its one of, if not the most important fundamental in golf. This is how you keep your balance, and if your off balance then your shots can be all over the place. Slice is very typical, and honestly from that position the ball can go anywhere...so you will never learn from your shots, which is how you teach yourself to play golf. Also understand that your equipment will effect where the ball goes...so don't learn how to golf by watching the ball flight of ill fitted clubs. Make sure you have the correct lie and loft on your irons, and that your giving yourself enough loft on your woods to succeed.
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driver hitting ground before ball
golfernc replied to itching4scratch's topic in Instruction and Playing Tips
Not transferring his weight. This will happen a lot when a person hangs back. Never getting to the left side all the way. Watch him at impact, look at his feet....are they flat? Look at tour pros at impact and their right foot is already off the ground at impact, meaning they have already shifted their weight. Most amateurs hang back because the equipment is to strong for them, so they try to add loft and control the ball this way. A slice is very typical of low loft on driver. If you don't have enough power (SS) then the club will go right. If he has a lower SS and has a low lofted driver this will happen. You hit the ground because your falling backwards; so think about if your trying to hit something on the ground but your weight is going opposite of where the club is going. Its like throwing a baseball...you don't get more power by falling backwards and throwing a rainbow....you get power and control by falling forwards. The problem with most people is their equipment does not allow them to do this, and they have to try to "throw a rainbow". -
Do you feel like right now you have two completely different swings ( iron swing, wood swing)? Also, when you were playing your best did you feel like you had two very different swings?
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another thing to note: loft on the driver and woods.....what are you playing right now? I swear this is all I talk about on this forum, but I think many people are not aware of the effects that loft will have on them. If you do start getting to your left side ( assuming your not right now) as the above poster mentioned, which is ideally you would like to do. Then keep in mind IF the lofts of your woods are low, and your ss is not real high then the club will slice on you...so you might want to check into getting higher lofted clubs, and see how that works. Obviously I have no idea if this is the real problem, just wanted to give you some info. You never want to compensate a good swing to make ill fitted clubs work for you. So just make sure the swing and the clubs are working together. Many people believe its always their swing thats the problem....which it is to a degree ...but you build your swing around the clubs ( because you react to ballflight). So make sure the clubs are letting you build a good swing. I would make sure your irons are the correct lie angle for you, ( hitting off of a lie board). If they are not then get them adjusted ( pretty cheap to do). I would make sure you have plenty of loft in all your clubs, so you dont start to lift, flip, hang back. Hope that helps a little. Good luck!