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He posted an 82 for our match. Using the old par + handicap strokes, he would have shot 77 with the last three holes as not played. I don’t know the algorithm for how the USGA would complete his round but 82 is what we figure. So that’s 5 strokes everyone agrees is the beginning of the cheating here. I’ve spoken with the handicap committee about it and it’s in their hands now. Whether they take action now, or later, it seems like they want to do something about it. I told everyone I was playing with this weekend, both rounds, and the punishment ranged from 3-4 tournament ban to permanent ban from their suggestions, but it’s up to the handicap committee and MGA board. on another note about the algorithm and 9 hole posting. His last 20 scores I can look up in GHIN have a lot of 9 hole scores where all of them are higher than he is obviously capable. I wonder if he is using that to sandbag as well. He frequently posts scores from low slope/course rated courses where he shoots high scores. He’s beyond basic sandbagging of missing easy putts or deliberately hitting a bad shot to pad his score. Him and his partner also won the member/member two weeks ago, so a lot of people are unhappy. Hope something finally changes.

For such a nice membership, there have been some bad incidents in the past few years. We had someone voted out a couple of years ago over something he did and he harassed the board members for three months until he moved out of the area. Generally they’ve tried to do things like tournament handicaps and identify certain people who they know should be lower and adjust it somehow. I can understand not wanting to go thru something like the guy who was voted out again i emailed the pro who forwarded it to the handicap committee. They are going to see what can be done. I walked someone thru what happened and they are going to nudge him to post the score from the match and see what he does. Since he didn’t put anything in the electronic scoring past 13, based on how he played 14 and 15 plus having to take bogey on 16-18 for after he left, he should post 83. We’ll see if it’s even higher, Since he was really even thru 13, then doubled 14 and parred 15 my guess is he really shot 75 being generous and giving him 2 pars and a bogey on the three holes he didn’t play. i shot 88, getting 16 shots for my course handicap which is net even and I lost on 13. We do brackets where handicaps should be within 4-5 of each other. Most matches only have 1-2 shots as a difference between players neither of us posted the score yet. There was something in the match play rules about whether or not to post your score. I couldn’t remember if we were supposed to or not. I don’t think he was going to post that, because even with his inflated score it would be the lowest score in his recent 20. Lucky I didn’t because they want to see what he does post and they don’t want me posting so he can try to calibrate his score.

He plays from 68.3 / 124. A combo tee setup of normal mens and seniors. I play from 69.7/127. He left after taking a triple on 14 and then leaving. Which plays to what I think his plan is, He doesn’t stroke on 14 but would have to take bogey for non completed holes on the way in. Maybe that’s giving him too much credit, but he found a way to add 4 shots to his score over three holes so…. I looked up his last 20 rounds in GHIN and he has a lot of rounds at easier courses (rating and slope) that are higher than his normal rounds at home. Since I mostly have his front nine score during the match (36) to go on, he has three nine hole scores at our course posted that are 41-43. I wrote the whole thing up to the head of our golf association who runs all the tournaments. Our pro is not involved officially in the tournaments because the golf associations are separate from the club. He’s pretty well known for this, however I was pretty shocked at how well he played carrying a 15. I think eventually they will do something, a lot of people have complained. The golf association threw someone out a couple of years ago and it was a three month situation where the guy retaliated. They probably are hesitant to go thru anything like that again. That is a rather crazy story I might post about later.

I was going to start a thread, but this seems like the place. Yesterday I played my matchplay match at my local club. My opponent is a notorious sandbagger by reputation. The pro once pulled his tournament rounds from the past several years and said that it is impossible his tournament rounds are legit based on his handicap. here is what happened last night. I am getting 4 shots from him. His current handicap index is 15.3 i shot 45 on the front. Was down 4 after nine, he had three birdies and shot even par. I was closed out on thirteen, we halved with a bogey. That bogey put him one over par for his round. He then took a triple on 14 and then left. As if that wasn’t bad enough, he lied about his score. I wrote down on my scorecard what the score was. He put higher values that didn’t affect the outcome of the match to pad his score and apparently make it not look as obvious. He shot 36 on the front, but claimed 40. The higher values for his score were in the online scoring app our club uses. He did it this way: I won #7. He had a 2 foot putt for par that if he made would still lose the hole. He picked up and said it didn’t matter since I won. He took a 5 instead of a 4 after picking up a gimme. on #8 his approach shot on this par 4 was 8 inches. I verbally conceded the putt but I had hit into a hazard. I finished the hole with a 6. Instead of birdie he put in for par. on #9, another par 4, his approach was to 18 inches. I missed my par putt and then knowing how close I verbally conceded the putt. I missed my bogey putt, he never conceded mine. Instead of birdie he put down a bogey. He padded his score by 4 shots on the front. And then did again on 10. I rinsed one and made 6 on a par 4. I putted out and he was fishing balls out of the lake so I drove off to the next tee. He had 15 feet laying two but claimed a 5. love to know the odds of a 15 handicap being even thru 12 holes on a round of golf.

I do this one a lot. When I work on distance control I don't like to have the same putt twice because I cannot roll a second ball out on the course.

I paid $12.88 on a net $77 order for shipping. It’s a real shame that Pure went out of business. I had it noted down to get them for my regrips. These won’t go on right away, but I intended to get a set in my favorite color once I was ready,

I actually started the year with 4 birdies on January 2nd, so I had a great start. 5 birdies Saturday, with 3 new ones that I hadn't already had. At my course, #2, #5 and #7 are all tough. #5 had a bell behind the green where if you birdie it, you ring the bell because it's so rare. #7 is harder IMO, it's a 90 degree dog leg with a shallow landing area to be able to hit to the green (par 4) and until very recently the green had a huge hump in the front that would make balls release way to the back, so most of the time it's hard to be close to the pin. The only time I birdied #7 was two years ago and I holed out from the fairway. #2 is just a narrow green to hit, it's 2 tiered and has a lot of break. If you birdie #7 it's almost guaranteed you'll win a skin in a tournament. I have five remaining. 2 are par threes, just haven't had a putt drop (one is the 18th handicap hole) and one is a par 5. And of course, #7 has yet to be conquered.

Were they nice enough to play with, or were they pains in the butt? I voted straight yes, because even paying for the other slot it’s still depriving someone of a time that they could otherwise play. In other words, it’s not right to block someone who could have played because you just don’t want to play with other people. maybe when the course has open times, in your case it’s early morning. Prime tee times. I get why people might not want to team up, but you really need to get over yourself unless you want to come when the course isn’t busy. there are plenty of people I’m sorry into have had to put up with. That’s part of life, and a shared place like a golf course doesn’t mean you get to refuse to play with others. I’ve also met some really great people getting paired up, so you never know what someone is like until you are a few holes in.

What the heck?

I caddied at a private club and while there were one offs, here and there, who were rude generally most members would have waived you thru. There was one notable exception a group that played who called themselves “The Hat” who played weekdays usually in the early afternoon. They wouldn’t let an ambulance through. I was banned from caddying for them because there was some confusion about whose ball was farthest away and they had me walk to the hole to verify. Having caddied for several years I knew not to walk in someone’s line but didn’t see one of the ball markers and stepped across the line. Buh-bye. Caddymaster told me I was better off and called them arrogant pricks. Most of them were nice enough on their own, but as a group they were insufferable. That’s the worst kind of etiquette breaches IMO, they were long time golfers and should know better to wave people thru. a lot of the items on this thread are definitely bad etiquette but when I see them it’s usually people who don’t play a lot of golf and they simply don’t know better. People who should know better are the true ass clowns. one of the things that bugs me personally, although I can understand if you’ve taken the time to practice your wedge game and really focus on different swings for wedge distances. Using your range finder from something like 30 yards. Personally it makes me want to face palm. Some people might find it useful, but it’s one that I just don’t get.

Exactly. As long as you can maintain pace of play and not hold up other groups. Unfortunately where I play on Sunday mornings the last pro slipped in a group right before our Sunday game. They play from the tips and can’t break 100. They don’t play ready golf and one of them leaves sunflower seeds on many of the greens. the first week they were put there the starter had us move out of the way because he told us we had been pushed back. They proceeded to hit two balls each, of which only two were potentially anywhere near good. One of them almost hit a couple of us. Two of them are not even very nice to anyone outside their little foursome.

shameful and what a shame. Pro golf seems to not stand for very much outside of the majors now.

It is. I think it's disgusting and with PIF acting as such a large investor I won't be watching. However I am hopeful that in the long term the source of this funding is not around forever and that the DP and PGA tours retain control of whatever this becomes long term.

Nothing in any of this tells me that the net effect of this is that the new company will try (half heartedly or genuinely who knows?) to make what LIV was doing better and viable and that the PGA basically retains control of everything (if I read the press release right). the ugliness is taking the money from SA. I wonder what triggered the reversal, but it doesn’t sound anywhere near as bad as I thought at first reading. Only that the LIV sports washing money will be a part of it. Which I think is dead wrong. This might kill LIV faster than it would have on its own.

I didn't, but that sounds like a lot of fun. The course I remember is Kauri Cliffs, but I also played 10-12 other courses that I came across from driving around both islands. Many of them were just putting the money in a drop box because no one was in the pro shop during the week.