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Yes , always a bit more fun when you can finish that disaster hole by trying to splash it in from the bunker for 9 😎

Might not be able to see much of this, but hoping that Rose can do well enough to regain #1

I think just over 1 ball on average ; many rounds it's none, sometimes 1 or 2. I try and play carefully.

Very fair, although my point wasn't that they didn't let me play through, but rather that they never looked back, and didn't seem to have insight into this. Again, no problems for me on the day, but I can see on other days, with different people involved, that would cause frustration and discord.

Interesting thread. I agree with the point that trying to hunt an angle from >200 yards out is unwise, but I wonder whether there is a point where it does become feasible. There are a few holes on my home course where I'll need to layup on a long par 4 because I've hit a poor tee shot.and there's a dip or something before the green. On these I'll normally try and pick a side to come in from with my layup, given i'll only be hitting a short iron. I can't say I've never found trees doing that, but equally the instances are rare, and the advantage of having an easy shot with my wedge seems worthwhile.

An unusual game. If you can drive with that accuracy, hit your irons good distances and have a good short game, you ought to be able to score well despite relatively poor putting. Are you incurring a lot of penalties?

I think attitude is the basic problem here , too many people just aren't good at talking to people and resolving issues pleasantly. I played the other day in the afternoon, and is typical for my solo rounds I didn't have a booking but knew the course was clear from checking booking system earlier. Checked in a pro shop who OK'd me to go out right away - there were 2 booking now but spread across 3 slots, so I had the middle one. I arrived at the tee just as group 1 drove off, and noted that one player was stopping to hit a shot about 50 yards ahead of the tee box. They then proceeded to hit a series of bad shots between them until they got over the hill, where a typical bogey golfer would put their first stroke. At no point did they look back while hacking around on the way to their triple bogeys, which really should be standard when you're having a bad hole. Meanwhile the next group arrive at the tee and ask me (ball on tee, driver in hand) if I had booking - I confirm that the pro shop had authorised me and that I was giving the group ahead time to finish as they hadn't looked back and were playing slow. One guy grumbles to the other about how there's no point making a booking - it's still about 5 minutes before their slot comes up. In the end, they begrudgingly accept that as I'm on my own it's probably better for me to play first, and I get on my way. I catch up with the group ahead as they are leaving the tee on hole 2 - as always at this early stage I simply smile without asking to go ahead, and fortunately they say 'well, if you're that confident that you can go ahead of us', as If I'm the one playing fast, rather than them playing slow and not looking. I didn't come out of nowhere , they just never looked back. Of course, I happily accept their offer and get on my way. Although I got through those groups quickly, it did seem harder than it needs to be. Had I been the first group I'd have been embarrassed at holding somebody up without realising (rather than worrying about how quickly I might play through them), and had I been the in second group I wouldn't have issue with a single player going out 5 minutes before my tee time, especially If I'd only made my booking in the last couple of hours. It's like people just want to do their own thing, ignoring the reality that they are sharing a public space with others.

Thanks for the suggestion, but as above, I need this for play from hard ground, and the beefy sole on those won't help. It would give me another nice option out of bunkers, but this is the secondary purpose since I use my 54 from those most often. For those of you talking about sliding right under the club, is this notably different than with a regular 60 degree? If the lie is too flufffy, I'm usually more cautious about playing a lob anyway, but curious as to whether the difference from 60 to 64 (or 62) really changes this dramatically.

Would second what @boogielicious said. Best of luck either way.

It was a European tour event, so there probably weren't any objectionable fans there to bother him 😎

Really interesting post, thank you. I think your last paragraph sums up what attracts me to this option. On a technical point though, I would have thought it would be easier to tilt the spin axis on a 64, because more loft above 45 degrees (unless delofted to 45 which is unlikely at these lofts) would reduce friction and thus backspin? That said, lateral accuracy would normally be a secondary concern for me with this type of shot.

I can live with this requirement - If I ever get an ace, the rest of the day is cancelled and I'll finish out whatever!

Yes, but depending on the length I'd probably qualify the claim. Most part 3 courses have a few shots that require a short or mid irons, and while they are generally a bit softer overall, an ace I think is just as valid. If it's an 80 yarder, then I'd still count it , but it would have an asterisk. Sort of counting the hero challenge as a PGA tour win , or the PGA championship as a major.

So, it's the end of the European Tour, with the race to Dubai on the line, and it seems that 2 people can win it - Molinari & Fleetwood. Molinari is well ahead on points, which means Fleetwood needs to win with Molinari outside of the top 5 in order to win the main thing. It didn't look too likely , but it's now getting interesting, with Fleetwood just one off the lead (currently being shared by Reed & Wallace). It's going to be close, but I think Fleetwood will do it - he's excellent in this competition, and Molinari, as good as he is, probably won't finish in the top 5.

I always walk & carry , as it's possible in the UK , though challenging on a hot summer day. I think it offers a possible slight advantage, but it can easily become a disadvantage on the later holes if the player doesn't set themselves up well enough ( as light a bag as possible, good footwear, good fitness level, food & drink etc ).

Also my experience from the one time I had an issue with shanking wedges.

@iacas thanks , although I have found it more difficult with a lot of bounce - I think it's because I can get a little steep, whereas the video talks about a shallow aoa. @Patch I'm talking about shots where I need to lob the ball up - when I have an alternative (e.g. bump and run) I invariably take it. @Typhoon92 Good to know thanks.

I find a fade more slightly more reliable - I might double cross and go left, but I don't often suffer from over fading very often (i.e. slicing) when playing for a fade - overall a higher percentage of shots will work. Anything can happen when I play a draw - in summer, a draw that gets too hooky (and has been delofted) can be a disaster because there is no stopping it until it's in something like a bush.

@Jekyll-Hyde £35 visitor, £20 guest , £20 twilight. Full Membership is £700 , but there are many schemes, such as young adult discount that make it cheaper, so £500-£600 a year for me while im in my 30's. For dollar amounts multiply by around 1.3

I think it's a combination of hitting it far and , taking into account his age, the potential for improvement elsewhere in his game.

Very exciting to see him in the Mayakoba, playing so well on a course that isn't really geared towards big hitters. Too early to accurately gauge his potential but there's every reason to believe it would be very high indeed. Also up there is Aaron Wise, who I also think is a great prospect.

I've been toying with what to do when replacing my Lob wedge, which I'd now like to do. I have a 60 degree lob wedge, which I don't tend to carry because it's really old (worn grooves) and I like my 54 for most shots. The problem I have is that my home course has very hard ground (sandy) , which I find difficult to chip or pitch from, and can suffer from catching it thin with my 54. This is especially the case when 54 might not be enough and I want to bring it down steeper. What I'd like is a club that I can use to pick the ball with a (somewhat) square face and get it high. I'm already competent at this shot with my 60 but I figure a bit more loft will make hitting these shots easier as I won't have to open the face as much. I also wonder whether it might give me another option out of bunkers when I need more loft (again, a couple of these are somewhat hard). I don't use these clubs for full shots (or indeed shots where I have any other choice) so I don't need to worry about suitability other than for specialist shots. I'm not concerned about loss of distance because I only use it close to the green, so I guess distance control is the main drawback of having so much loft? Any thoughts much appreciated.

I'd rather he wasn't doing this, but such is Justin's ability, he'll still win either way 👍

Spot on from the scientist, although I'm guessing it's more clear cut at regular golf courses where they'll all essentially be made the same? I like leaving the flagstick in (and often do when playing alone), but I think it'll be interesting in social games next year, when people start asking for the flag to be put back in again, and you have all sorts of messing about as different players have different preferences (which they almost certainly will) leading to some instances of it being replaced and lifted multiple times during putting. It's for this reason, rather than the impact on the putts themselves, that I think they'll change their minds. In the meantime, I'll happily take the advantage and have it in.

@iacas @NMGolf fair enough. It's likely to be my main aim anyway over the winter (distance through the bag, not necessarily just on driver) , though I doubt I'll get 20 yards without doing something about Clubhead speed (It's been a while since I've been on trackman, but I think I'm around 90 for driver from memory - Zepp thinks higher, but I don't trust it) and I just anticipate it's going to be hard - I'll be delighted if it proves otherwise.