My first weird shopping experience and some questions

Dear all,

Would keep my story short …

I went shopping today, targeting to buy a set of iron to begin my serious golf learning. My experience is one time driving range, so I pretty much rely on the professionalism of the salesperson to recommend the club. Having said that, I did several days of research on the internet, including to this forum. After reading the “Dream set” thread below, I intended to go for Titlelist AP1/AP2 or Mizuno MP52/58/62/68. What I know is that many of you is that they are very good irons but to be frank, I do not know why it is good.
http://thesandtrap.com/forum/threads...eam-Set/page31

(1)I went to a shop, which sells both used and new club. I lean to buy used ones because of budget constraint. I told the salesperson what I was looking for. STRANGE enough , he immediately refused to sell me a used set of MP62. He said it is not forgiving enough to let me enjoy golf. He then handed me a set of AP1 (used) but I found that I dislike the appearance of it. As a pure beginner, I did not try the swing because I won’t be able to feel the difference anyway. While I asked him again regarding the MP62, he refused to tell me the price. I then end up leaving empty hand. Actually, I got his point on forgiveness. But my belief is that if I am going to learn this sports seriously, I will buy some very good tools. There is no point to buy some shit to destroy the interest. Moreover, I want a set that I can use for many many years such that I can eliminate the cost of exchange a new set when I find the entry level one not good enough. What do you think? Do you think he is too stubborn? Or do I overestimate myself to be able to handle the MP series?

(2) I found some used MP irons on ebay. How comes the price is much cheaper in ebay than in the shops in Singapore? Are there fake MP’s?

(3) I know the MP58 is the newer version of MP52, likewise for MP68. If I really like the MP series, which among the 4 models I should target for? What are the difference? I tried looking up the info from mizuno website but seems they are really similar, can you share the key difference?

Appreciate you help.

1. I understand your desire to buy a set that you can learn on and not have to replace but the MP-62 is a bit of a stretch for a complete beginner. While they are not complete blades, MP-62's are for players with lower h'caps. You're better off buying a reasonable priced set and learning how to golf before you dive in and buy a players club. I guarantee, if and when you get better, you will want to replace your irons after a couple years or maybe more. Get a reasonably priced game improvement iron (lots of Ping irons on sale...such as the G5 for like $300 last time i saw) and learn to play the game and enjoy the game before you dive into something that you can't hit for the life of you.

Where on earth did you see a new set of G10's for $300? You can get a brand new set of G5's for $400.

How long was the long version? Just kidding - although I'm still wondering what part Mike Weir plays in all this - was he the guy refusing to sell you the MP-62s?

I'm sensing some potential language issues, so bear with me. For thoughts on iron selection also check out other golf forums, but beware of people with an agenda. For every person that tells you MP-68s are not for you, there will be another telling you that you'll grow into them.

Yes the MP-68 is very different from Ap1 and Ap2. The MP-68 is a true player's blade while the AP1 is quite forgiving for beginners. Even the AP2's are much more forgiving than the MP-68. There is a reason why most players even with low h'cap don't opt for a true blade like the MP68. A beginner as yourself will have a very dificult time striking the ball well.

That isn't true.

I didn't say it was carved in stone, but it does seem to be the standard OEM business plan.

I agree to a certain point. I'm not a big fan of irons with all kinds of different colored parts glued and welded to it.

Their business plan is to make money. Ping can slap a G20 tag on the G15's tomorrow without changing a thing and they will sell like hot cakes because people think they are new and better. When in reality, there is a minute difference between the G5's of 2005 and the G15's of 2010. See Callaway's X series. They are all practically the same from the 12/14's. Doesn't make theM an obsolete POS.

I don't think this detour is helping the OP (like that ever stops us - LOL), but it's the manufacturers that tell us the the previous versions are out of date, obsolete, and one can ascertain the POS part. Have you read the print ads for TM Burner or Cobra S2 irons? Whatever TM or Cobra you had before that should basically be flattened and melted down.

In this case it wasn't the manu that was telling him his club would be outdated. You stated such as a fact.