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post #1 of 32
1/16/13 at 10:34am
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The PGA Tour makes its way to the mainland this week into the California Desert for the Humana Challenge (formerly the Bob Hope Classic). The tournament will be held in La Quinta on three courses, the Palmer Private and Nicklaus Private at PGA West and La Quinta Country Club.

 

Here are the times for tomorrow:

 

PGA West - Palmer Course
Tee No. 1
Group Time Players
1 8:30 AM Adams, Blake Fasola, Ken Matteson, Troy Kennedy, Mark
2 8:40 AM Molder, Bryce Stalsberg, Lon Baddeley, Aaron Hurtubise, Laurent
3 8:50 AM Hicks, Justin Finden, Steve Park, Jin Lucas, Aeron
4 9:00 AM Harman, Brian Brock, Dave McGirt, William Anderson, Matt
5 9:10 AM Glover, Lucas Fuhr, Grant Ishikawa, Ryo Ribeiro, Alfonso
6 9:20 AM Kohles, Ben Pena, Michael Presnell, Alistair Clayton, Jay
7 9:30 AM Overton, Jeff Cook, Dick Bae, Sang-Moon Duffy, Brian
8 9:40 AM Johnson, Zach Felder, Don Love III, Davis Bramlet, Dean
9 9:50 AM Stuard, Brian Katzoff, Stuart Hahn, James Band, Doug
10 10:00 AM Garrigus, Robert Hemingway, Ralph Merrick, John Smith, Ozzie
11 10:10 AM Simpson, Webb Bridgeman, Junior Toms, David McCallister, Mike
12 10:20 AM Campbell, Chad DeWitt, Stephen Palmer, Ryan Ridley, Dave
13 10:30 AM Bolli, Justin Orszag, Jon Hoffmann, Morgan Peterson, Michael
Tee No. 10
Group Time Players
14 8:30 AM Gillis, Tom Ingram, Mike Trahan, D.J. Blumenfeld, Mike
15 8:40 AM Steele, Brendan Furgiuele, Michael Ames, Stephen Bell, Gerald
16 8:50 AM Gonzales, Andres Penny, Scott Letzig, Michael Beard, Swain
17 9:00 AM Every, Matt Soerjosoemarno, Japto Driscoll, James Soerjosoemarno, Yedidiah
18 9:10 AM Na, Kevin Bantle, Bob Kirk, Chris Bond, Chuck
19 9:20 AM Norlander, Henrik Waggoner, Sean Percy, Cameron DiFiore, Bernie
20 9:30 AM Bryant, Bart Sutowo, Pontjo Jones, Steve Clarke, Buddy
21 9:40 AM Leonard, Justin Gupta, Vinod Senden, John Feely, Jay
22 9:50 AM Stiles, Darron Ferraro, Jim Gove, Jeff DeBoer, Sid
23 10:00 AM Walker, Jimmy Smith, Reed DeLaet, Graham Trcka, Todd
24 10:10 AM Stallings, Scott Zar, John Rollins, John Disiere, David
25 10:20 AM Kelly, Troy Yunker, Dan Stroud, Chris Roby, Billy
26 10:30 AM Meierdierks, Eric Eckholm, Bill Starkjohann, Chris Haldan, Dwight
La Quinta C.C.
Tee No. 1
Group Time Players
27 8:30 AM McCarron, Scott Cooper, Alice Mallinger, John Moore, William
28 8:40 AM Snedeker, Brandt Jermoluk, T.J. Wilson, Mark Johnson, Craig
29 8:50 AM Compton, Erik Melkus, Ken Langley, Scott Colby, Dave
30 9:00 AM Perez, Pat Geldmacher, Jay Villegas, Camilo Rodrigues, Bill
31 9:10 AM Mickelson, Phil Foster, John Kuchar, Matt Kubly, Bill
32 9:20 AM Guthrie, Luke Diamond, Bob Fisher, Ross Waugh, Seth
33 9:30 AM Weekley, Boo Berdugo, Gilles Knost, Colt Oney, Wade
34 9:40 AM Cink, Stewart Faulk, Marshall Ogilvy, Geoff Dickerson, Eric
35 9:50 AM Gardiner, Scott Schwartz, Steve Lingmerth, David Winegard, Bob
36 10:00 AM Stadler, Kevin Rheney, Clarke Barnes, Ricky Bolton, Michael
37 10:10 AM O'Hair, Sean Ripps, Harold Howell III, Charles Gordon, Tom
38 10:20 AM Chappell, Kevin Frumkin, Joe de Jonge, Brendon Daly, Carson
39 10:30 AM Reed, Patrick Hinnant, Charlie Wittenberg, Casey Barber, Ronde
Tee No. 10
Group Time Players
40 8:30 AM Claxton, Will Anton, Bill Mathis, David Short, Gregg
41 8:40 AM Verplank, Scott Bock, Oliver Weir, Mike Taghavi, Nima
42 8:50 AM Stefani, Shawn Miller, David Gomez, Fabian Kohary, Miklos
43 9:00 AM Estes, Bob LoBue, Victor Duke, Ken Reed, Mike
44 9:10 AM Appleby, Stuart Blackwood, Randy Clark, Tim Nelson, Craig T.
45 9:20 AM Williams, Lee Mirza, Kayhan Lee, D.H. Rodham, Hugh
46 9:30 AM Owen, Greg Lauer, Gary Kokrak, Jason Margolis, Bob
47 9:40 AM Points, D.A. Jacobson, Jack Gainey, Tommy Jacobson, Jared
48 9:50 AM Watkins, Aaron Romanowsky, David Fritsch, Brad White, Ron
49 10:00 AM Noh, Seung-Yul Gallagher, Peter Wi, Charlie Burch III, Bob
50 10:10 AM Beljan, Charlie Baker, Michael Immelman, Trevor Kelly, Ben
51 10:20 AM Gay, Brian Dargis, Mike Teater, Josh Campbell, Jeff
52 10:30 AM Thompson, Nicholas Altman, Billy Klauk, Jeff McDevitt, Randy
PGA West - Nicklaus
Tee No. 1
Group Time Players
53 8:30 AM Hearn, David Mueller, Rob Snyder III, Joey Hepper, Jeff
54 8:40 AM Kelly, Jerry Stout, Bob Short, Jr., Wes Miller, Jerry
55 8:50 AM Gates, Bobby Runyon, Chuck Ridings, Tag Bottin, Jim
56 9:00 AM Maggert, Jeff Englander, Harvey Flores, Martin D'Addario, Jim
57 9:10 AM Laird, Martin Hooks, Kevin Sabbatini, Rory Ellis, Jeff
58 9:20 AM Haley II, Paul Blue, Jim Svoboda, Andrew Head, Daniel
59 9:30 AM Summerhays, Daniel Martinez, Saul Castro, Roberto Cornett, Justin
60 9:40 AM Bradley, Michael Harshaw, Frank Bohn, Jason Fiorini, Al
61 9:50 AM Streb, Robert McCrimlisk, George LeBrun, Steve Stull, Tom
62 10:00 AM Brooks, Mark Erwin, John Lynn, David Wise, Scott
63 10:10 AM Crane, Ben Delamarter, Rick Allenby, Robert Brooks, Jeff
64 10:20 AM Chalmers, Greg Benaron, Rick Tringale, Cameron Clarke, Jim
65 10:30 AM Ernst, Derek Tilson, Brent LaBelle II, Doug Levy, Bob
Tee No. 10
Group Time Players
66 8:30 AM English, Harris Mettler, Jack Cauley, Bud Mewhinney, Mike
67 8:40 AM Stanley, Kyle Todoroff, Chris Haas, Bill Boyle, Brian
68 8:50 AM Cantlay, Patrick Sugarman, Steven Lee, Richard H. Brownstein, Chad
69 9:00 AM Parnevik, Jesper Ouaknine, Joe Janzen, Lee Palermo, Sal
70 9:10 AM Wagner, Johnson Flaherty, Mark Pettersson, Carl Huffnagle, Bill
71 9:20 AM List, Luke O'Keefe, John Bowditch, Steven O'Keefe, Tim
72 9:30 AM Streelman, Kevin Ransom, Dave Pride, Dicky Parker, Thomas
73 9:40 AM Woodland, Gary Rose, Lynn Vegas, Jhonattan Klintworth, Skip
74 9:50 AM Karlsson, Robert Wade, Scott Quigley, Brett Basso, Ed
75 10:00 AM Davis, Brian Hardwick, Nat Ogilvie, Joe Hodges, Greg
76 10:10 AM Henley, Russell Johnson, Jerry Van Pelt, Bo Gleason, Brad
77 10:20 AM Hoffman, Charley Weiner, Terry Marino, Steve Anderson, Corky
78 10:30 AM Horschel, Billy Klawiter, Rich Jones, Matt Drab, Ladislav

 

This tournament is in my back yard and I'm off Thursday and Friday so I may try to get down there... If I do, I'll be sure to snap a few photos and post them up.

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post #2 of 32
1/16/13 at 7:47pm

That's great Tristan, can't wait to see some pics!  I remember that they changed the format last year from 90 holes to 72 holes, but I didn't remember the change regarding the amateurs.  I believe the old format had only one pro in each group with a team of 3 or 4 ams.  Now it appears to be pairs, just like at Pebble.  I'm sure they changed that last year too, I just didn't remember.

 

One thing I've always thought about this tournament, is how memorable the stretch of holes from 12 or 13 through 17, along the base of the mountains, on the Palmer Course are (the one they play on Sunday) ... and I don't mean that in a good way.  Maybe I'm just being picky here, but that ditch just bugs me.  They need to plaster some fake rocks or something on the banks, or whatever they can do to make it look somewhat natural.  Takes away from the beauty of the rest of the course.

 

I'm going to pick Zach Johnson this year.  No particular reason why (except I liked him in "Walk The Line" and he was close last year).  As long as he remembers ... all putts break towards Indio!

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post #3 of 32
1/16/13 at 7:54pm
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Looks like I may not be able to get tickets after all so I don't think I'll be going... oh well. Should be a good tournament though... I'll still probably watch a good portion of it on TV but I dread hearing the putts break to Indio line... it's just so freakin' annoying.

 

I think I'll pick Gary Woodland to win it... he played there well 2 years ago (lost in a playoff to Vegas) and I like the guy. Plus he came into my work the other day.

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post #4 of 32
1/16/13 at 8:00pm
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Originally Posted by tristanhilton85 View Post

Looks like I may not be able to get tickets after all so I don't think I'll be going... oh well. Should be a good tournament though... I'll still probably watch a good portion of it on TV but I dread hearing the putts break to Indio line... it's just so freakin' annoying.

Yeah, I'm pretty excited about it too.  Not that Kapalua and Sony aren't real tournaments, but something about them makes them feel very vacation-like.  It just "feels" like the season is really getting underway once they come back to the mainland.  Mickelsons there this week, Tiger will be at Torrey, and so on.

 

Although, I'm pretty dang fired up about Tiger and Rory in Abu Dhabi as well ... which, I believe, starts live in, like, 2 hours!!!

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post #5 of 32
1/16/13 at 8:51pm

I'll definitely follow the leaderboard like I always do, but I'll probably watch a little bit of this one on TV as well.  I usually start watching a lot more when the Tour stops at Torrey Pines and Scottsdale, but the season really starts for me at the WGC-Match Play Championship.  From then on, things get good!

 

As far as picks go, Bo Van Pelt and Brandt Snedeker are two guys who stick out for me.  They can make a lot of birdies in bunches, and that's what it will take this week.  I'm interested to see how Phil plays though.

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post #6 of 32
1/16/13 at 8:56pm

for the second week running i'll tak Harris English. Did well in this last year, played well last week, and is bound to win soon.

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post #7 of 32
1/16/13 at 9:30pm

Yeah I'm ready to watch some of the Abu Dhabi tonight when I get home. Should be a good show and I want to see how Rory adapts to the Nike clubs. 

 

As far as the Humana tourney this weekend, I'll probably watch some on Sat and Sun. I think Kuchar will have a good showing as he looked pretty dialed in over the weekend. 

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post #8 of 32
1/17/13 at 11:26am

I'll take Bo Van Pelt.  Book it.

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post #9 of 32
1/17/13 at 11:28am
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Originally Posted by Thrash13 View Post

As far as picks go, Bo Van Pelt and Brandt Snedeker are two guys who stick out for me.  They can make a lot of birdies in bunches, and that's what it will take this week.  I'm interested to see how Phil plays though.

 

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I'll take Bo Van Pelt.  Book it.

 

Bo's gettin' some love this week... that's two picks for the guy already.

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post #10 of 32
1/19/13 at 11:39am

This tournament is still wide open, and it's going to be a shootout over the weekend.  The most intriguing thing to watch may be how Russell Henley performs the next two days.  He is back in contention, and he will really turn some heads if he can win again.  There are plenty of golfers with a chance though, but I'm excited to see how things turn out.

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post #11 of 32
1/19/13 at 11:03pm

Very impressive stuff from Scott Stallings today. He can join a pretty short list of guys who have won PGA Tour events 3 years in a row (obviously he'd be the first to do it in 11, 12 and 13), but not many did it from 10-12. Hopefully he can finish the deal, hate to see a guy lose a lead like he has! Got to keep the pedal to the metal though.

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post #12 of 32
1/19/13 at 11:12pm
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Very impressive stuff from Scott Stallings today. He can join a pretty short list of guys who have won PGA Tour events 3 years in a row (obviously he'd be the first to do it in 11, 12 and 13), but not many did it from 10-12. Hopefully he can finish the deal, hate to see a guy lose a lead like he has! Got to keep the pedal to the metal though.

 

I think Dustin Johnson's won in every year since 2008 (including 2013).

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post #13 of 32
1/19/13 at 11:25pm
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I think Dustin Johnson's won in every year since 2008 (including 2013).

Yeah ... the only one other than Tiger to win in his first six seasons on tour.

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post #14 of 32
1/20/13 at 12:22am
I'm sure I'll jinx him, but it's great seeing Charles Howell III in contention for a second consecutive weekend. I'm glad he went back to the short putter, and he has looked solid so far. Stallings falters at all, it's a wide open event. It's definitely his to lose though.

I usually don't watch much of this event, but I'll be glued to the TV tomorrow! a1_smile.gif It will be a great way to pass time til the Ravens game.
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post #15 of 32
1/20/13 at 7:38am

Come on, can't they make these courses where the Humana Challenge is played more difficult? These scores are outrageous.

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post #16 of 32
1/20/13 at 7:41am
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I'm sure I'll jinx him, but it's great seeing Charles Howell III in contention for a second consecutive weekend. I'm glad he went back to the short putter, and he has looked solid so far. Stallings falters at all, it's a wide open event. It's definitely his to lose though.

I usually don't watch much of this event, but I'll be glued to the TV tomorrow! a1_smile.gif It will be a great way to pass time til the Ravens game.


I remember playing my home course in Augusta (Jones Creek) where Charles, as a teenager, would play. He'd zoom around in a cart around our foursome, skipping holes, while practicing.  Definitely underachieving as a PGA pro - thought he'd have more wins.

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post #17 of 32
1/20/13 at 11:31am
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Come on, can't they make these courses where the Humana Challenge is played more difficult? These scores are outrageous.

 

Of the 49 courses played last year on tour, the courses at the Humana rated 41st (LQCC), 46th (Palmer Private), and 49th (Nicklaus Private) in difficulty last year.

 

It's definitely one of the easier stops on tour, but I think it's kind of fun to watch these guys go out and pick apart a course.

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post #18 of 32
1/20/13 at 11:33am
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Of the 49 courses played last year on tour, the courses at the Humana rated 41st (LQCC), 46th (Palmer Private), and 49th (Nicklaus Private) in difficulty last year.

It's definitely one of the easier stops on tour, but I think it's kind of fun to watch these guys go out and pick apart a course.
Totally agree. If they did this every week it'd get dull, but so would us open conditions every week too. Variation is good!
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