Titleist AP1 712 vs Mizuno JPX-825

I know this has been covered before and links to older threads are welcome. I'm 54 years old and have been mostly out of the game for 10 to 15 years. Pretty good ball striker with average distance. 7 iron about 150 to 155. Averaged in the low 80's when I was playing some. Really trying to get back into the game. Right now I have Ping G10's with AWS regular shafts. Solid irons but I just swung a Titleist AP1 712 and Mizuno JPX-825 six iron at Edwin Watts yesterday and WOW. They both felt awesome. VERY solid and great feel. For those that have experience with either or both under real turf/course conditions (not off plastic mats into a picture of a golf hole)..thoughts? Thanks so much. Chuck

Hey Chuck, I recently tried all of the major game improvement irons that are available: Rocketballz, Titlesist, Mizuno, Adams, Callaway, Ping, etc... I thought the Mizunos were nice to hit, but a bit uninspiring to look at. So the Titleist AP1s were the clear winner for my swing. The swingweight, shaft, minor offset, "unchunky" looking face, coupled with the forgiveness/sound/feel of the face was amazing. I'm a mediocre golfer and I find it hard to do any wrong with these clubs, even off-center mis-hits travel well. The stock shafts Dynalite Gold XP weigh 114g, but have a soft tip. This feels nice when swinging the club, but will produce a high ball flight which may not suit some players. Good luck!

Thanks Jeetz,

I appreciate the input. I haven't played much in about 15 years but have always loved the game. My Dad showed me the basics in about 1975 and by 1978 I shot a 77. That's a very long time ago now. Now I'm just hoping to get a decent game of golf back. I just know the Titleist  AP1 712 and the Mizuno JPX-825's kind of felt like a whole different level than my Ping G10's. And I love Pings and played Ping Eye 2's for over 20 years.

Chuck

I'm just thinking, if you are a decent ball striker why not go for the AP2 or the 825 pro.

You will get more feedback from your clubs, and you will have forged irons giving some more soft feel.

Personally i like the 825's more because i find the AP2's to heavy at the bottom and i don't like the sound much.

I would certainly encourage trying out the AP2 and 825 Pro, and anything else you can get your hands on.  But I'm a believer of playing game improvement clubs until such time as you are actually a "player" and can find some benefit from "player's" clubs.  I've been playing Ping G20s for over a year and in spite of their borderline (some think not so borderline) super game improvement characteristics I get enough feedback to tell what I've done on a mishit.  Thing is, I still have enough mishits that the extra forgiveness of GI clubs probably saves me two or three strokes per round, maybe more?

I have a fitting for some new AP1 714s set for Friday.  By most accounts they are about as "workable" as any GI club while still being quite forgiving of the occasional mistake.  I love the look and feel of the AP2s, but deep down I know I am better off with AP1s, and they look and feel good to me too.

Whatever you decide, I would strongly encourage investing in a fitting though at this point I expect your choices for 712s are limited to what is in the dealer's stock.

AP2s are a great set of sticks (loved them when I tested them) but I wouldn't jump so quickly. The AP1 will give you a bit more forgiveness on mishits and are still plenty of club. I'm pretty sure that Ben Crane played/plays AP1s so it's not like you can be "too good" for them.

So how much harder are the AP2's to hit than the AP1's?