FIFA Women’s Final

[boogielicious]

12 minutes ago, mcanadiens said:

Not to get confused with the earlier discussion about men's soccer v. women's soccer overall, but as far as the US sides go, comparing the USMNT and USWNT is kind of silly.

The U.S. has been in the forefront of competitive women's soccer. Keep in mind the first FIFA Women's World Cup occurred in 1991, so it hasn't exactly been a long history. With its jump, the US has a deeper talent pool and the best programs to develop that talent.

US men's soccer, by contrast, was decades behind the rest of the world when people started getting somewhat serious about it in the 1990s. I'm not altogether sure I saw a match until the 1993 World Cup. In any case, top male athletes generally don't play the sport in the US and the programs to develop the talent aren't there yet.

I'm really not sure how they can be considered arrogant. Given the recent run of form, they appear rather the opposite to me.

Arrogant in that they go rogue when they play and don't follow the game plan. Too much individual deviation and trying to win it by themselves. Maybe selfish is a better term. 

[Vinsk]

33 minutes ago, boogielicious said:

oo much individual deviation and trying to win it by themselves.

Yep. I agree somewhat with arrogant in that they’re not very talented but think they are. Altidore is awful. He’s fast but has no boot. Brazil gets out there and peppers the goal with shot after shot. Obviously you have to have a well formed defense but without an aggressive offense with talented strikers you’ll just be good at losing by small margins what is exactly what the USMNT has done for years. Times they’ve been up 1-0 and what did they do? Shut down the offense and piddle around in the Midfield while getting relentlessly drilled with shots from teams that go for broke only to lose 1-3 and think they played a sound game. It’s maddening.