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What Is Your Anti-Handicap?


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Posted
1) 7.5
2) Unknown
3) 2 Weeks
4) making improvements for me anyways: from 8.5 - 7.5 in 4 months.
In My Bag

Driver: Sasquatch 460 9.5°
3 Wood: Laser 3 Wood 15°
5 Wood: r7 19° (Stiff)Irons: S58 Irons 4-PW Orange DotWedge: Harmonized 60°Wedge: Z TP 54°Putter: Tiffany 34"Balls: Pro V1 Shoes: Adidas Tour 360 IIThe Meadows Golf Coursewww.themeadowsgc.comAge: 16

Posted
So the big question I have:

At what point do you consider somebody to be:
a) Very consistent at their handicap;
b) Average consistency for their handicap; or
c) Inconsistent for their handicap?



Dent, look at your GHIN page, take the 10 "unused scores", look at the diff. on the right (which calculates the round in accordance with rating/slope), and find the average. Then multiply by 0.96.

What's in the bag
Driver: FTI
3W: 15 Degree
2H: X
4I-7I: X-188I, 9I, PW: X-Forged52 Deg: Vokey Oil Can, all rusted out56 Deg: Vokey, Chrome 60 Deg: Black PearlPutter: Catalina Two


Posted
Ah: my Anti Handicap is 11 Thanks Sandman! As far as your question, do you mean for us to give you a handicap number in which I think someone is consistent etc?
In My Bag

Driver: Sasquatch 460 9.5°
3 Wood: Laser 3 Wood 15°
5 Wood: r7 19° (Stiff)Irons: S58 Irons 4-PW Orange DotWedge: Harmonized 60°Wedge: Z TP 54°Putter: Tiffany 34"Balls: Pro V1 Shoes: Adidas Tour 360 IIThe Meadows Golf Coursewww.themeadowsgc.comAge: 16

Posted
Ah: my Anti Handicap is 11 Thanks Sandman! As far as your question, do you mean for us to give you a handicap number in which I think someone is consistent etc?

I'm so glad you posted that. I was starting to think I was the only one that had an anti-handicap that was that high!!

Index: 0.3 Anti-Index: 6.9 Turns out my anti-handicap went down four or five points as of this last revision (today). I guess that is a good thing...
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Driver: 983E 8.5* w/ stock stiff flex shaftIrons: MP60 - 2 through 9 irons (swap out the 2 iron for my three wood at some courses)Wedges: 588 Chrome - 47* Pitching Wedge, 53* Gap Wedge, 56* Sand Wedge MP-T Black Ni - 60* Lob WedgePutter:.....

Posted
I'm so glad you posted that. I was starting to think I was the only one that had an anti-handicap that was that high!!

I think most anti-handicaps are supposed to be high, because its taking your worse scores. I wouldn't worry about it being Six Strokes over your handicap :P

In My Bag

Driver: Sasquatch 460 9.5°
3 Wood: Laser 3 Wood 15°
5 Wood: r7 19° (Stiff)Irons: S58 Irons 4-PW Orange DotWedge: Harmonized 60°Wedge: Z TP 54°Putter: Tiffany 34"Balls: Pro V1 Shoes: Adidas Tour 360 IIThe Meadows Golf Coursewww.themeadowsgc.comAge: 16

Posted
No Dent, I mean at what point would the differential be consistent?

Your handicap is the same as mine, but you're anti-handicap is much better than my anti-handicap. I would interpret that as you being a more consistent player at your handicap (for whatever reason, maybe you play the same course frequently while I do not have a home course, maybe you have been playing at a 7 longer than I have, etc...).


And yes, your anti-handicap should be higher than your regular handicap. But how much higher? My uncle is a 7 handicap, and regularly kicks my ass, so I calculated his antihandicap and it is only a stroke worse than his handicap. So when he plays, he is always right at his handicap. But when I play, my good rounds are at my handicap, but my bad rounds can get pretty ugly.

What's in the bag
Driver: FTI
3W: 15 Degree
2H: X
4I-7I: X-188I, 9I, PW: X-Forged52 Deg: Vokey Oil Can, all rusted out56 Deg: Vokey, Chrome 60 Deg: Black PearlPutter: Catalina Two


Posted
1. 2.5
2. 5.2
3. 2 or 3 years.
4. Not much change. Depending on the time of year it ranges from 0.5 to 3.0.

The consistency question is tough and is highly dependent on both the player "streakiness" and their handicap level.

Posted
No Dent, I mean at what point would the differential be consistent?

I do not have a home course anymore either. I have actually only been around a Seven for about 2 months. It takes me a very long time to get my handicap down. So basically your Anti-Handicap is your level of consistency?

In My Bag

Driver: Sasquatch 460 9.5°
3 Wood: Laser 3 Wood 15°
5 Wood: r7 19° (Stiff)Irons: S58 Irons 4-PW Orange DotWedge: Harmonized 60°Wedge: Z TP 54°Putter: Tiffany 34"Balls: Pro V1 Shoes: Adidas Tour 360 IIThe Meadows Golf Coursewww.themeadowsgc.comAge: 16

Posted
Your handicap is what you do in your top 50% of rounds. Your anti-handicap is what you do in your worst 50% of rounds. So if your bad rounds are closer to your good rounds, I think that would show your consistency.

What's in the bag
Driver: FTI
3W: 15 Degree
2H: X
4I-7I: X-188I, 9I, PW: X-Forged52 Deg: Vokey Oil Can, all rusted out56 Deg: Vokey, Chrome 60 Deg: Black PearlPutter: Catalina Two


Posted
I am from Australia and so I don't actually have an anti-handicap but I used your formula and I calculated that my handicap would be 5.8 and my anti-handicap would be 10.4.

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driver Big Ben CS3 9.5º
3-wood 906F4 15.5º
hybrid rescue mid 19ºirons: MP-60 3-PWwedges vokey spin-milled 54º and 60ºputter tracy IIball Pro V1


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Posted
How many people out there are "good" handicaps vs. your 10 lowest scores and your 10 highest scores look like they were played by different species of golfers?


Here are mine.

Date Rating Slope ESC Score Differential
7/19/0968.3 123 78 8.911
7/19/0968.3 123 8818.098
7/18/0969.9 128 9017.744
7/14/09 & 7/11/0968.9123.58211.986
7/13/0968.3 123 8313.504
7/13/0968.3 123 8717.179
7/13/0968.3 123 8212.586
7/11/09 & 7/8/0966108 7711.509
7/11/0968.3 123 8313.504
7/11/0968.3 123 8212.586
7/8/09 & 6/27/0968.4123 8414.331
7/5/0968.3 123 9120.854
7/3/0968.3 123 9120.854
7/2/0968.3 123 9726.366
6/28/0968.3 123 8515.342
6/27/09 & 6/24/09641087612.555
6/27/0968.3 123 8313.504
6/26/0968.3 123 799.83
6/23/0971.9 135 8410.128
6/22/09 & 6/21/0968.4123799.738

My index is 10.9 for now, but I wish that I didn't have a 20 stroke range between my highest and lowest!!!

It really does speak more to potential than average round!

Just curious how many people can keep it tight vs. all over the place like me.

Posted
Mine looks similar. Honestly, yours didn't look that bad except for a couple of big scores. Those will happen to us.

Brian


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Posted
Look up anti-handicap.

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1) Handicap Index: 11.2
2) Anti-Handicap: 17.8
3) Just since the last revision.
4) Ended last season at this exact number (11.2). Earlier this year I was up to a 12.8, now I've gone down the last 3 revisions back to 11.2.

5 scores from earlier this year from a golf trip to MB, all in the 90's. They are killing my anti-handicap! LOL

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Posted
Right now I'm a 0.9 and a 3.2.

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Director of Instruction Golf Evolution • Owner, The Sand Trap .com • AuthorLowest Score Wins
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Posted
Interesting.

So my handicap is 10.8

my anti-handicap is 17.1.

That's way too big of a difference for me. I look forward to the time where there ar just 1-2 strokes difference between the two (as long as it's not like 2.5 and 2.7 NOT 25 and 27 LOL)

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