Jump to content
Subscribe to the Spin Axis Podcast! ×
Note: This thread is 6170 days old. We appreciate that you found this thread instead of starting a new one, but if you plan to post here please make sure it's still relevant. If not, please start a new topic. Thank you!

Recommended Posts

Posted
Phil Mickelson definitely

Things I Am Good at in Golf

- Hitting it in the drink
- Finding the rough with my drive
- Staying in the bunker- Hitting grassburners all the way to the hole- Three putting- Posting over par on 18 in only 9 holes- Swinging and missing with an iron


  • Replies 99
  • Created
  • Last Reply

Top Posters In This Topic

Posted
Over-rated or under-achievers?

Adam, Sergio, Badds - all under achieving based on where they have come from pre PGA Tour.

The worst two are Poulter - over-rated and over-exposed, Donald - over-rated and over-exposed (what's he doing on a FedEx Cup ad?).

Is it the disappointment that no-one has really pushed Tiger in majors (aside from Rocco and Bob May) in recent years? Make lots of cash, have a great life, accept the annual $million + for a few top 10's and live it large and easy. Tiger never having won a major from behind shows a fallibility - and not having lost from in front shows "acceptance" from the other 70+ ties going into the weekend.

Who really is finding their swing in the dirt looking for the form to get to the top - or is the target now #2? That then makes all of them over-rated - if not complacent.....
What I play:
Titleist 909D2 9.5 Matrix Ozik xcon 6 | Ping i15 14 Axivcore Tour Red | Ping i15 hybrid 17 Axivcore Tour Red | Titleist AP2 TTDGS300 | Vokey 52.08 SM 58.12 | Scotty Cameron Studio Stainless Newport 2 | Titleist ProV1x
Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

Posted
Jason Day...

Driver: KZG Gemini 10.5° Custom Build (Grafalloy ProLite 35)
7 Wood: Mizuno MP001 21° (Grafalloy ProLite 35)
Irons: Mizuno MP-60 (3i-PW)
GW/SW/LW: Cleveland 900 Tour Action 52°/56°/60°
Putter: Odyssey White Hot XG 2-Ball Blade
Ball: TaylorMade TP Red / Srixon Z-Star


Posted
  Backspin said:
I think Tiger is over-hyped. I agree he is the greatest of his generation and may one day be the greatest ever, but he's still over-hyped. Tiger this, Tiger that, 24 hours a day in the golf world, 23 hours a day everywhere else.

And you'd better be thankful for it. Who else is there to really promote our game and capture the imagination of the non golfing public?

There are a lot of players who would never have considered golf if it were not for Woods.

Posted
  Billiam said:
Phil Mickelson definitely

No way! He won two tournaments this year. The only other guys who won two or more are Tiger, Kenny Perry, Anthony Kim, and Paddy. A pretty good list.

In the Bag:

Driver 10.5 r7 460 ti Reax regular shaft
3 Wood 15.5 LD F Speed Aldila NV stiff shaft
Hybrids 19 Tour Burner Rescue Reax stiff shaft. 21 degree torch series saber shaftIrons Sliver Scot 4-pw Rifle 5.0 shaftsSand Wedge 56 Degree Cg10 Black pearl finish 2 dotLob Wedge 60...

Posted
Re: Colin Montgomerie being overrated....

In the Ryder Cup he is undefeated in eight singles matches and his record of seven points from singles after six wins and two halves, equals the Ryder Cup record, as does his tally of six wins.

In total he has played in eight matches, 36 games and won 23.5 points, including holeing the winning put at Oakland Hills in 2004.

Yeah, totally overrated!

In my bag:

Callaway X460 10 deg driver
Taylor Made Burner 15 deg 3 wood
MD Golf 21 deg Blackhawk RescueTaylorMade RAC OverSize irons 3-SWPing i-Series Anser putter(All LH!)


  • Administrator
Posted
  Sergio77 said:
Yeah, totally overrated!

People don't give a rat's behind about Ryder Cup records. Quick: name Jack's. Arnold's. Tiger's. Majors and wins are what matter.

He won all of his tournaments against weaker competition on the European Tour. Not a single PGA Tour win to his credit, nor a major.

Erik J. Barzeski —  I knock a ball. It goes in a gopher hole. 🏌🏼‍♂️
Director of Instruction Golf Evolution • Owner, The Sand Trap .com • AuthorLowest Score Wins
Golf Digest "Best Young Teachers in America" 2016-17 & "Best in State" 2017-20 • WNY Section PGA Teacher of the Year 2019 :edel: :true_linkswear:

Check Out: New Topics | TST Blog | Golf Terms | Instructional Content | Analyzr | LSW | Instructional Droplets

Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

Posted
  iacas said:
He won all of his tournaments against weaker competition on the European Tour. Not a single PGA Tour win to his credit, nor a major.

Which is why I feel Montgomerie should be a non-story. He may very well have been over-rated years ago, but not now, if only because he is a non factor. Actually, I find it interesting he was ever considered rated to begin with. His domination of lesser competitive European tournaments coupled with never winning on this side makes it an easy choice for me not to consider him.

Driver: Cobra S2 9.5 Fubuki 73 Stiff | Wood: Titleist 909H 17 Aldila Voodoo Stiff | Irons: Titleist ZB 3-5, ZM 6-PW DG S300 | Wedges: Titleist Vokey SMTC 50.08, 54.11, 60.04 DG S200 | Putter: Scotty Cameron Fastback 1.5 33" | Ball: Titleist Pro V1x


Posted
Negativity Negativity Negativity.

They are professionals making millions of dollars because people spend money to watch them play a silly game.

Whom do we have your permission to look at and respect and admire?

Taylormade Driver HT
Taylormade 3 HT

Mcgregor 7w
Vulcan irons 5-P
Solus 53 61

Vokey 56

Scotty Caneron Flange/ Ping Cushin

Srixon ZStar

71 gold tees

bring cash


Posted
  MrKadash said:
Actually, I find it interesting he was ever considered rated to begin with.

Ah, come on! Three second places in the US Open and a second in the PGA Championship is still pretty impressive, 400 consecutive weeks in the world top 10 to boot.

Best player of the last 20years not to win a major IMO.

In the Matrix XTT Standbag:

Driver: Biggest Big Bertha 11*
Fairway Wood: Steelhead Plus 3 Wood
Irons: T-Zoid Titanium Insert irons 3-SWWedge: Vokey Spin Milled Oil Can 60.04Putter: Pro Platinum Laguna 34" w/ British Open '04 headcoverBall: ProV1 Rule35 Playing again after a three year hiatus...


Posted
  Fraser said:
Best player of the last 20years not to win a major IMO.

Possibly. I reserve that distinction for Jay Haas, Scott Hoch, or Gil Morgan -- or maybe even Bruce Crampton and Doug Sanders (although longer than 20 yrs. ago). I don't think they are on anyone's over-rated lists.

Driver: Cobra S2 9.5 Fubuki 73 Stiff | Wood: Titleist 909H 17 Aldila Voodoo Stiff | Irons: Titleist ZB 3-5, ZM 6-PW DG S300 | Wedges: Titleist Vokey SMTC 50.08, 54.11, 60.04 DG S200 | Putter: Scotty Cameron Fastback 1.5 33" | Ball: Titleist Pro V1x


  • Administrator
Posted
  bigoak said:
Negativity Negativity Negativity.

Then:

a) don't post in this thread b) don't read this thread c) start a "positive" thread Seems you've chosen to not do any of those, instead choosing option d: d) complain

Erik J. Barzeski —  I knock a ball. It goes in a gopher hole. 🏌🏼‍♂️
Director of Instruction Golf Evolution • Owner, The Sand Trap .com • AuthorLowest Score Wins
Golf Digest "Best Young Teachers in America" 2016-17 & "Best in State" 2017-20 • WNY Section PGA Teacher of the Year 2019 :edel: :true_linkswear:

Check Out: New Topics | TST Blog | Golf Terms | Instructional Content | Analyzr | LSW | Instructional Droplets

Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

Posted
  iacas said:
People don't give a rat's behind about Ryder Cup records. Quick: name Jack's. Arnold's. Tiger's. Majors and wins are what matter.

Which people don't give a rat's behind? Not Europeans, I can tell you that. He is revered here for his Ryder Cup record, achieved under the most excruciating pressure. He is a great team player.

While no-one would argue with the fact that the PGA Tour is the stronger, the European Tour was packed with stars of the Faldo, Woosnam, Lyle, Langer, Olazabal variety when Monty was dominating it. No mean feat, and inaccurate to charactarise it as weak.He didn't play the PGA tour much at all, perhaps unsurprisingly given the behaviour of US crowds towards him. Perhaps the slightly sneering attitude towards the European Tour is one of the reasons the US team get it handed out to them in the Ryder Cup so often.

In my bag:

Callaway X460 10 deg driver
Taylor Made Burner 15 deg 3 wood
MD Golf 21 deg Blackhawk RescueTaylorMade RAC OverSize irons 3-SWPing i-Series Anser putter(All LH!)


  • Administrator
Posted
  Sergio77 said:
He is a great team player.

In an individual sport.

  Sergio77 said:
European Tour was packed with stars of the Faldo, Woosnam, Lyle, Langer, Olazabal variety when Monty was dominating it.

They were playing over here in the states quite a bit. Monty's world ranking was never even really that great because he didn't play against strong fields.

  Sergio77 said:
No mean feat, and inaccurate to charactarise it as weak.

I called it

weaker , which it is.
  Sergio77 said:
Perhaps the slightly sneering attitude towards the European Tour is one of the reasons the US team get it handed out to them in the Ryder Cup so often.

And what's it really matter, in the end? Go on, without checking, name Nicklaus' Ryder Cup record. Now name the number of majors he won, and guess at the number of PGA Tour wins he has...

The point remains: who really cares about the Ryder Cup on an individual level? Not the vast majority of golf fans. European Tour Orders of Merit? Same category - big whoop.

Erik J. Barzeski —  I knock a ball. It goes in a gopher hole. 🏌🏼‍♂️
Director of Instruction Golf Evolution • Owner, The Sand Trap .com • AuthorLowest Score Wins
Golf Digest "Best Young Teachers in America" 2016-17 & "Best in State" 2017-20 • WNY Section PGA Teacher of the Year 2019 :edel: :true_linkswear:

Check Out: New Topics | TST Blog | Golf Terms | Instructional Content | Analyzr | LSW | Instructional Droplets

Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

Posted
  iacas said:
In an individual sport.

Not the vast majority of golf fans? That's called doing people's thinking for them. Monty is a European golfer who hardly played on the PGA Tour - duh, no surprise he has no wins!

To say the Ryder Cup doesn't matter is laughable, and to back that up by asking about the Ryder Cup records of players who are amazing individuals is senseless. Golf is NOT just an individual sport. Mostly it is, but not always. Also, the US Tour is strong. But you are looking at it from a US perspective. Asking how many US Tour wins a European player has comes across as a bizarre question from this side of the Atlantic. Sure, it has the most money. Some players go over to try and make their fortune, and adapt to target golf. But if it is that hugely superior, why do the "unknown" Europeans stuff the Americans in the Ryder Cup? Do you think you might be guilty of underrating the European Tour? Anyway, back to Monty. Almost every article written about him for a while was along the lines of "Will he ever win a major?". He came 2nd a ridiculous amount of times but never quite got it done. The coverage he received reflected this and his achievements elsewhere. The fact that US golf fans don't like him doesn't mean he is overrated. Don't confuse the two.

In my bag:

Callaway X460 10 deg driver
Taylor Made Burner 15 deg 3 wood
MD Golf 21 deg Blackhawk RescueTaylorMade RAC OverSize irons 3-SWPing i-Series Anser putter(All LH!)


Posted
I don't think Sergio Garcia can be listed as 'overrated'.
Although he's fallen short in Majors, his record this year alone is impressive
TaylorMade R9 460 9.5°
TaylorMade R9 13°
TaylorMade RAC TP MB 3-PW
TaylorMade RAC TP 54°.10 / 58°.10
Scotty Cameron Studio Select Newport 2

Posted
  TitleistWI said:
I think Padraig Harrington is overrated. He wins a couple majors and now all of the sudden everything thinks he is the next big thing? Give me a break...

Yeah -it's a joke. I mean, he wins 3 majors in 2 years and suddenly there's all this talk.

It was the same with Nicklaus, Watson, and Woods. I mean, there's no way that a European could be that good, especially as he doesn't even play on the PGA tour full time. I am hoping that you have made an attempt at irony, but I fear that you are serious.

Note: This thread is 6170 days old. We appreciate that you found this thread instead of starting a new one, but if you plan to post here please make sure it's still relevant. If not, please start a new topic. Thank you!

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.

Guest
Unfortunately, your content contains terms that we do not allow. Please edit your content to remove the highlighted words below.
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.



  • Want to join this community?

    We'd love to have you!

    Sign Up
  • TST Partners

    PlayBetter
    TourStriker
    Golfer's Journal
    ShotScope
    The Stack System
    FitForGolf
    FlightScope Mevo
    Direct: Mevo, Mevo+, and Pro Package.

    Coupon Codes (save 10-20%): "IACAS" for Mevo/Stack/FitForGolf, "IACASPLUS" for Mevo+/Pro Package, and "THESANDTRAP" for ShotScope. 15% off TourStriker (no code).
  • Posts

    • It's not. 🤣 It's over 90 seconds into a 5-minute video before they say anything about physics, and when they do, they talk about mastering the double pendulum with a definition that includes gravity or something. Here, @GreenhornGolfer and others: https://amzn.to/3IHnf0N. Buy that.
    • Barring a disaster, this will be Scheffler's fourth major and only missing the US Open for a career slam.
    • Have slowly been working on hooding my long irons less. Using a much more neutral grip and a feel of swinging above the waist. This was the 2nd swing today. A clean clip with a 4-iron with what seems like an okay centered pivot and decent balanced finish.
    • Nobody is getting close and Scottie is not letting them. BDC could've had a shot without that awful Thursday. He shot 16 under on the last three days.
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

Welcome to TST! Signing up is free, and you'll see fewer ads and can talk with fellow golf enthusiasts! By using TST, you agree to our Terms of Use, our Privacy Policy, and our Guidelines.

The popup will be closed in 10 seconds...