Why No Pull/Push Carts?

[mako224]

Just curious what the logic is as to why push pull carts are not allowed on some courses???? I can understand perhaps durring peek weekend times but why not durring weekdays, late afternoon or durring the offseason for those of us who prefer to walk but don't want to carry. Is it just a snob thing???

[iacas]

  mako224 said:

Just curious what the logic is as to why push pull carts are not allowed on some courses???? I can understand perhaps durring peek weekend times but why not durring weekdays, late afternoon or durring the offseason for those of us who prefer to walk but don't want to carry. Is it just a snob thing???

Two reasons. One's legit, one's not so much.

1) Lots of people with pushcarts drive them everywhere. Right on the fringe or even on the greens. Not cool. 2) Takes away from course revenue.

[ganjagolfer]

cuz golf courses owners are greedy pigs without any imagination and love of the game and mother earth

[walk18]

  mako224 said:

Just curious what the logic is as to why push pull carts are not allowed on some courses???? I can understand perhaps durring peek weekend times but why not durring weekdays, late afternoon or durring the offseason for those of us who prefer to walk but don't want to carry. Is it just a snob thing???

Vote with your wallet. Don't frequent those courses.

[Sherlockian]

  walk18 said:

Vote with your wallet. Don't frequent those courses.

That's my philosophy!!

[wingchamps]

About 40% of the players at my club use a push cart. The places that don't allow them are pretending to be higher class, when actually using a "trolley" is the preferred way to play golf where it started. It is elitist BS. Get out of your cart and get some exercise. Oh, and definitely stop building courses that include walks of 3 to 500 yards between holes.

[Dub]

I believe that Iacas nailed it....however I believe that it's more of a revenue thing than anything else.

[microcrayfish]

Courses would never get away with that in New Zealand. There's no course I've ever played here nor any I've ever heard of that is cart only or doesn't allow pull carts. The vast majority of golfers here walk unless they're old, so a course that tried to implement a golf cart only policy would most likely crash and burn pretty quickly.

[PiKapp23]

My golf friends use pull carts (trolleys they call them since they are British). We went to a course this year that had sign posted that they weren't allowed (it's technically a country club, but with open tee times). The starter-nazi immediately said we couldn't use them. When we went in to pay we asked, they said no so we all left. Only 2 of our foursome intended to use them anyway, but I thought it was ridiculous so I also refused to play there. That was the first time I've seen that policy, but have seen it on a couple courses since. Everytime we see that policy posted we refuse to play (a couple times the guys were planning on riding anyway, but left on principle). One of those courses has since changed that policy.

[kfowler]

I do know that carts are huge revenue generators. Walking is the best.

[Fat Slice]

I've heard it claimed that they are trying to keep foriegn grass-seed from being transfered from course to course. Sounds bogus to me - what about shoes?

[Jay-Bird]

  walk18 said:

Vote with your wallet. Don't frequent those courses.

I'd much rather play at a course that had a no push cart rule. I'm

not a fan.

  iacas said:

1) Lots of people with pushcarts drive them everywhere. Right on the fringe or even on the greens. Not cool.

I've seen someone walk their push cart from the front/right of the green to the pin then off to the back/right of the green.

I played through the group and I said something. They were old men, and I assumed beginners. They obviously were strangers to the idea of golf etiquette, or just idots.

[LottaBalata]

I can understand simple rules on the use of trolleys. But to outlaw them entirely sounds financial to me. I play a course that strongly suggests that everyone use a cart. Only to speed up play. They don't really charge any more for the cart, its added into to a single fee that includes greens and cart.

As far as rules being enforced. . .Honestly, I see the seniors getting away with more rule breaking than any other group. Carts just a few feet away from the green. Sometimes they run right over the sign that says, "no carts beyond here". They don't fix their ball marks, replace their divots, and they will throw a frickin cig. butt anywhere.

If a course is going to outlaw something, it should simply be idiot players that don't respect the course.

[RocktimusPryme]

Its all the way financial. Theres no other reason, because people break just as many rules with carts as they do with pull carts.

As for the pace of play thing, thats nonsense people play faster IMO walking in foursomes than they do with 4 people in 2 carts. Its a little different if its not a foursome, but if a group isnt a foursome their shouldnt be a pace of play problem anyway

None of the courses out here let you walk, it sucks

[wingchamps]

  LottaBalata said:

I can understand simple rules on the use of trolleys. But to outlaw them entirely sounds financial to me. I play a course that strongly suggests that everyone use a cart. Only to speed up play. They don't really charge any more for the cart, its added into to a single fee that includes greens and cart.

Carts do not speed up play. My group plays in 3 1/2 hrs every sat/sun and we all walk. Slow play is caused by a bunch of factors...walking isn't one of them.

[smith5606]

  Jay-Bird said:

I'd much rather play at a course that had a no push cart rule. I'm

Unfortunately, there is no shortage of idiots in the world of golf. The actions of a few misdirected fools shouldn't be used to condemn the vast majority of trolley users and walkers. Neither should we walkers uniformly condemn those who chose fly around the course in those infernal four-wheeled monstrosities. There is plenty of room for both on a course. I am thankful that there are are still people like the developers like those who created Bandon Dunes who still feel that the world of golf cannot be adaquately appreciated through a piece of plexiglass, touched through foam rubber cushions, or smelled when tinged with internal combustion funes.

As long as my poor, old feet will carry me, I choose to walk. I know where to push my Speed Cart. I know where to park it. I won't slow your group down. I can and do play as fast as you do. I just do it differently. I have a feeling that someday you may come to feel the same as many of us do. I hope so.

[rangerat]

  iacas said:

Two reasons. One's legit, one's not so much.

I agree that those are probably the two reasons but... I remember an article a year or two ago in either Golf Digest or Golf Magazine that was advocating allowing push/pull carts to be allowed to go across greens to speed up play. The article noted that the wheels on modern carts do less damage than golf spikes on the green. Of course there is always the etiquette issue that many would site to counter this.

[Riverologist]

What I hate is courses that require you to ride but restrict the carts to cart paths only. I think you walk twice as much from the cart to your ball than you would if you walked the course to begin with,