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Does anyone know when club companies are going to start producing clubs with the new grooves? It stinks that I have to get a whole new set of clubs. It took me 6 months to get used to the set I have now.

My swing thoughts:

- Negative thinking hurts more than negative swinging.
- I let my swing balance me.
- Full extension back and through to the target. - I swing under not around my body. - My club must not twist in my swing. - Keep a soft left knee


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You do not have to conform to the new rule until 2020 unless you play in select tournamments run by the usga.

Whats in the bag?
Driver = Wishon Golf 949mc 9.75*/.5* Closed Face Angle
Fairway Wood = Wishon Golf 915 F/H 16* Square Face Angle
Wood Shafts = Wishon Golf Pro Flight EXP 85g Stiff Flex
Hybrids = Wishon Golf 331H 21* & 24*Hybrid Shafts = Wishon Golf GI335 Tour Weight 92g Stiff FlexIrons = Wishon...


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You do not have to conform to the new rule until 2020 unless you play in select tournamments run by the usga.

With a +4 index, I'm guessing he'll be affected a little more than most of us!

Of course, with a +4 index, he can probably beat my sorry butt playing with an umbrella!

In David's bag....

Driver: Titleist 910 D-3;  9.5* Diamana Kai'li
3-Wood: Titleist 910F;  15* Diamana Kai'li
Hybrids: Titleist 910H 19* and 21* Diamana Kai'li
Irons: Titleist 695cb 5-Pw

Wedges: Scratch 51-11 TNC grind, Vokey SM-5's;  56-14 F grind and 60-11 K grind
Putter: Scotty Cameron Kombi S
Ball: ProV1

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Does anyone know when club companies are going to start producing clubs with the new grooves? It stinks that I have to get a whole new set of clubs. It took me 6 months to get used to the set I have now.

Some already do. So... the answer to your question is "October, 2007 for release in early 2008."

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Does anyone know when club companies are going to start producing clubs with the new grooves? It stinks that I have to get a whole new set of clubs. It took me 6 months to get used to the set I have now.

What does it mean to "play into my legs"?

Driver: Nike Covert Driver

Irons: Mizuno JPX-825 Pro 5-GW 

Cleveland Mashie 1, 2, 3, & 4 hybrids

Wedges: Mizuno MP-T4 Black Nickel 54* & 58*

Putter: Wack-e with super stroke grip

Ball: Titleist Pro V1X


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I thought it was 2012, not 2020

Whats in the bag?
909 D3 8.5* UST Mamiya Tour Green X
909 F3 13* UST ATTAS X
909 F3 18* UST ATTAS X
909 H 21* DG S300 735cm chrome 5-PW DG S300 54.08 SM 58.04 SM 64.07 SM Studio Select Newport 2 Sonic Blue Dot...


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I thought it was 2012, not 2020

Actually for the average amateur it's 2024.... you can use the old ones for 14 years after the new rule goes into effect. As to when, My Titleist AP2's already have the new groove configuration.

Rick

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sorry to be a n00b, i know theres new groove rules but that are they?

in the bag

Driver: Burner 2007 9.5 Stiff Fujikura ReAx
Woods: 15 degree 3 wood steel shaft
Irons: MX-200 Irons 4-PWWegdes: Sand Wedge 56.13 60.07 Tour ChromePutter : Rossa Lambeau 34"Ball: Srixon AD333


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sorry to be a n00b, i know theres new groove rules but that are they?

None of the guys I play with are sweating the groove changes...in fact many are still buying new wedges and such now with the Zip Grooves, Spin Milled, Mack Daddy, etc.

You've got some nice irons in your sig line. Enjoy 'em. That's just my opinion as your average everday hacker who doesn't typically play in tourneys where this will impact me greatly for the next few years. I'm most likely going to get some new wedges soon (maximum spin I can get) and game 'em until they are worn out. By the time I replace them, it'll be most likely with conforming sticks.
909D Comp 9.5* (house MATRIX OZIK XCON-6)
Burner Superfast 3 & 5 woods (house MATRIX OZIK XCON-4.8)
G15 Hybrid 23* (AWT shaft)
G5 5 iron-PW-46*, UW-50*, SW-54 & LW-58 (AWT shaft)
Studio Select Newport 2 Mid SlantGrips: PING cords & Golf Pride New Decade Multi-Coumpound Bag: C-130...

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Thanks for the comment about the irons Dub, I LOVE THEM! I am getting confident with my 6 , 7 and 8 irons now. Hit the irons well today...

With my 6 iron i love hitting punched shots, all I do is move the ball back and have a shorter follow through. I would say that the 6 was going 160 today, hopefully around 170 in summer.


What do you think of the MD Golf Superstrong wedges? I am thinking of getting 2 of them as they are around £50 each... Think they got 162 points of of 200 in golf montlhy, second only to the Vokey

in the bag

Driver: Burner 2007 9.5 Stiff Fujikura ReAx
Woods: 15 degree 3 wood steel shaft
Irons: MX-200 Irons 4-PWWegdes: Sand Wedge 56.13 60.07 Tour ChromePutter : Rossa Lambeau 34"Ball: Srixon AD333


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playing into my legs to me means after I load the club in the backswing, all the movement of the arms and club are to transfer energy into my legs... and from there, the legs keep everything connected in my swing. They are the anchor and the driving force behind my swing.

My swing thoughts:

- Negative thinking hurts more than negative swinging.
- I let my swing balance me.
- Full extension back and through to the target. - I swing under not around my body. - My club must not twist in my swing. - Keep a soft left knee


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