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  1. 1. Which of these foreign countries have the best players?

    • Aussies
      6
    • Englishmen
      6
    • Scots
      0
    • All of South Americans
      0
    • All of Asians
      1
    • Spaniards
      1
    • Irishmen
      5
    • Swedes
      0
    • South Africans (RSA)
      8
    • Canadians (the Mike Weirs)
      1
    • OTHER
      1

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Big_M Great Member

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right now I put Englishmen because they seem (without looking) to have the most players playing fairly well inside the top 100.

If Adam Scott ever won, I might consider Aussies.

Irishmen were considered, and maybe should've been picked since Paddy is in that group of elite players... Tiger, Phil, Paddy, Vijay, Ernie (but fading)... players who have won a few majors and play to high level consistently.
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That's a tough one. I'd say it's pretty close between the Aussies, the Poms and the Yarpies with a few good Swedes out there too, although can't think of a playful slang term for them . Australia, England and South Africa are the countries that seem to have the most players in the field any given week other than the US. I'd probably give Englishmen the edge, Britons definitely if you count Northern Ireland and Rory McIlroy. There're some good Japanese players around and I think we'll be seeing some good Korean players starting to emerge soon too. Leaderboards are getting more and more international which is a good thing for the game in my opinion.

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You do of course realize that they are only foreign players if you don't live in the country where they come from? If I was British, then all Brits would be my countrymen, not foreigners.

In that spirit, I changed the title for my post.

You can't can't break up Great Britain and then group Asia and South America as one "country". I think you need to retake basic geography.

I'm going with Great Britain (which includes Scotland, Wales, England, and N. Ireland) because they still seem to be a step above any other country outside of the U.S. So my choice on the poll is "Other".

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You do of course realize that they are only foreign players if you don't live in the country where they come from? If I was British, then all Brits would be my countrymen, not foreigners.

I'm grouping the northern irishmen w/ the irishman, and there are enough players from Scotland and England so I don't have to group them. I thought about ungrouping the Asians, but decided against it.

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South Africans, they have a bunch of good players like Tim Clark, Rory Sabatini, Trevor Immelman, and Ernie Els.

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You can't can't break up Great Britain and then group Asia and South America as one "country". I think you need to retake basic geography.

Would you have been happier if he titled the post as geographic region instead of country... are you a little nit-picky today or what? I'm pretty sure you knew what he meant, and it is HIS poll... so why be so critical?

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Would you have been happier if he titled the post as geographic region instead of country... are you a little nit-picky today or what? I'm pretty sure you knew what he meant, and it is HIS poll... so why be so critical?

Because, in my humble opinion, it's just plain silly to try and balance whole continents against countries, or even fractured countries. Might as well just ask who has the best players, New York City or the rest of the world? It would be just as meaningful.

Nuts... ain't worth arguing over anyway....

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This has to be between AUS, ENG, and RSA.

I picked Aussies. Ogilvy, Scott, Appleby, Allenby, Baddeley and a total of 10 in the top 100.

Eng would be a close second, they have 8 players in the top 100. But they have a lot of guys ranked in the top 50

RSA has 9 in the top 100 but I put them third but a bit back from AUS and ENG. RSA also has a concentration of guys in the top 50 but none in the top 15.

Sweden is ok, but only two superstars right now and karlsson is fading fast. I doubt Karlsson will be in the top 15 a month from now. And unlike any of the other three I mention they have never had major championship winners.

But U S and A with 37 of the top 100, go U S and A!!!!!!

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Because, in my humble opinion, it's just plain silly to try and balance whole continents against countries, or even fractured countries. Might as well just ask who has the best players, New York City or the rest of the world? It would be just as meaningful.

This isn't about geography, it's about the the amount of good golfers in a countries. And your example is terrible. This is nothing like New York against the World. There aren't a ton of great golfers from South America yet there are tons from England. It'd be silly just to list columbia just because camilo. Might as well combine them with the Argentineans so they have a good number of players. It's the best fair way to divide up the poll options. Thank you very much

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This isn't about geography, it's about the the amount of good golfers in a countries. And your example is terrible. This is nothing like New York against the World. There aren't a ton of great golfers from South America yet there are tons from England. It'd be silly just to list columbia just because camilo. Might as well combine them with the Argentineans so they have a good number of players. It's the best fair way to divide up the poll options. Thank you very much

My point being that it's a meaningless poll when you arbitrarily break down the boundaries so nobody gets an "unfair" advantage.... I repeat.....

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aussies too, adam scott, geoff ogilvy, aaron baddeley, stuart applebee, robert allenby and the whole gang

...and.... Day, Goggin, Senden, Pampling, Lonard, Norman...

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My point being that it's a meaningless poll when you arbitrarily break down the boundaries so nobody gets an "unfair" advantage.... I repeat.....

It's not meaningless because I decide to make a bigger categories, it wouldn't make sense to list a country with only some good players against a little because then it's too easy to answer. Why not give the voters something to contemplate? Anyways, It's my poll and you can go make your own

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My point being that it's a meaningless poll when you arbitrarily break down the boundaries so nobody gets an "unfair" advantage.... I repeat.....

I'm on Fourputts side.

I agree with what he said, plus how do you think people from the bunched countries feel about it? If I did a poll and just lumped USA, Canada and Mexico together because there aren't a whole lot of Mexican players, I bet there would be a lot of patriotic Americans who wouldn't like this. You could at least give the country of the last major winner some recognition!
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I'm on Fourputts side.

How about instead of arguing and wasting space on a page each of you just say the county you believe has the best golfers and say 'I picked other' or whatever. Let's stay on topic here. I think everybody is down for a heated debate but lets make it about the topic, not about how the topic is categorized.

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