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Saw some old highlights of players hitting their ball out of a water hazard (like a lake or stream). Is taking a drop really that big of a deal? In almost all cases, the player either whiffed, hit it out only to see it roll back in the water, or some other bad result.

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James_Black Great Member

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villegas hit the green from a lake before.
A friend of mine hit the green from 50 yards out from a water hazard.

If the ball is only half/3 quarter submerged why not?

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I have played a ball 3 times out of the water. The first time I almost went swimming after I swung, and the ball was never found. The second time I was rushed because there was a gator in the pond. I got it out, but not very far. The third I was on a long par 5 and the tip of the ball was above the surface. I went for it in 2 and came up 3 ft short. So I took a hard swing and got it about 25 ft out of the water towards the green leaving me a 30 yard up and down for par. If I had decided to take the drop, I would have had to go all the way back around the lake and have to get up and down from 215 yards.

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I have played a ball 3 times out of the water. The first time I almost went swimming after I swung, and the ball was never found. The second time I was rushed because there was a gator in the pond. I got it out, but not very far. The third I was on a long par 5 and the tip of the ball was above the surface. I went for it in 2 and came up 3 ft short. So I took a hard swing and got it about 25 ft out of the water towards the green leaving me a 30 yard up and down for par. If I had decided to take the drop, I would have had to go all the way back around the lake and have to get up and down from 215 yards.

you went near a pond with a gator in it?????

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you went near a pond with a gator in it?????

Dude I was born and raised in Florida.....Ive got a photo album of gators we have caught with fishing poles. Bring em up in the boat, snap a picture and toss em back. I dont mess with anything over 5ft tho lol. More than likely the gators are going to run away from you, but you never know.

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Dude I was born and raised in Florida.....Ive got a photo album of gators we have caught with fishing poles. Bring em up in the boat, snap a picture and toss em back. I dont mess with anything over 5ft tho lol. More than likely the gators are going to run away from you, but you never know.

ok lol.

I have a image in my head of you trying to take your shot next to a 20 foot gator. I guess it was only a little one?

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Saw some old highlights of players hitting their ball out of a water hazard (like a lake or stream). Is taking a drop really that big of a deal? In almost all cases, the player either whiffed, hit it out only to see it roll back in the water, or some other bad result.

Like any recovery shot, it's risk reward. It also depends on where the ball is, or rather, where the drop would be.

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You would be surprised how big a 20ft gator is. lol I have seen a 15ft in my neighbors pool....crazy huge. The norm is anywhere from 5-13ft. a 5 footer might take off your arm if your not careful, but a 13 footer could be the end of you.

The one I rushed was out in the middle of the lake, so really I didn't have to rush, but these guys are very fast in the water, and once their head goes under, you never know where they are going to pop up, so I was just being careful.

This guy was "only" 12ft and he killed someone. http://www.clickorlando.com/slidesho...s;p=news;w=400

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Dude I was born and raised in Florida.....Ive got a photo album of gators we have caught with fishing poles. Bring em up in the boat, snap a picture and toss em back. I dont mess with anything over 5ft tho lol. More than likely the gators are going to run away from you, but you never know.

That's crazy!

Man, those gators scare the $hit out of me. Got a picture to share? Dan

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yes, but unfortunately Im at work for another hour or so. Ill post up a few when I get home.

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This is ALL about where the drop will be vs where the shot out of the water is relative to the green. It's a Lateral Hazard...

That said, am I correct that even if you don't advance the ball out of the hazard after your "water shot," that an unplayable lie can be taken and your drop is two clublengths from that spot?

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This is ALL about where the drop will be vs where the shot out of the water is relative to the green. It's a Lateral Hazard...

No, you cannot take an unplayable lie from a water hazard.

The only reason to play a ball from a hazard is if you believe you can do better with one stroke out of the hazard than you can with a drop and a penalty stroke. If it's a long hazard (not lateral) and you just roll in to the green side of it, this is quite possible. If you're in a situation where you've got to get down in 2 to win, you might decide it's better to try to whack out and pray to land on the green to have a putt rather than drop and have to hope for a hole-out. I'd think, especially for an amateur, it'd be pretty rare for playing out of actual water to be the smart play though.

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Well Im a few days late, but here are just a small selection of my fellow reptiles on the golf course lol

I got pretty close to this first one. He was asleep and as soon as I took the picture he woke up and started moving....so I scrammed lol




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The one with the hazard stake make me wonder about the free drop from a dangerous lie rule, or is that also not allowed in a hazard. Don't know that I want to be hitting within 20 feet of that water.

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Nice pictures, I was golfing in Cancun once and went to walk up to the bunker that my ball was in..and a crocodile was lying down right next to my ball. I played it safe and dropped a ball. I played any ball that was close to the water very quickly for the rest of the day lol.

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Every time I think about someone playing a ball from a water hazard, I think of Van De Veld rolling up his pants and standing next to his ball fully submerged in the Burns thinking about whether he could hit it or not.

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I'm not the type who give up strokes easily. As long as I think I can play the shot, I will. I've broken a few clubs because I was so stubborn and played shots I shouldn't have. It's part of the fun, I guess.

Well, I've never tried to play the ball when it's in the water or anything because I haven't had the chance yet. My balls usually ended up way to deep to play.

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Is there a local rule where if your ball goes near a gator but not in a hazard you can re-play your shot or something?

I'm not going to take my shot with one of them next to me.

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