Tommy Gainey-Bubba- and Ray Romano- Golf instruction is lousy!!!

[Stretch]

After an inauspicious start, this thread has become very interesting.

May or may not be of any value, but in my own game I've noted two particular step changes on the way from shooting mid-90s last year to mid-70s today. First, I stopped three jacking (regularly) and started chipping/pitching to spots where I had a reasonable chance to make the putt to save par. That, on its own, turned me into a better-than-bogey golfer. The second clicked later, but had a greater net effect. That was finding myself on the green or just off it in regulation on most holes (barring complete disaster like a snap hook off the tee or shank in the fairway). From there, anything over 79 suddenly became a poor round. Now obviously, there's a relationship between the two. For one thing, I could capitalize on the latter more easily because I'd already done the work on the former. So I guess, if anything, I agree with both of the main points of contention -- that it's quicker to shave some strokes through the short game and that larger improvement will ultimately come from the full swing -- but don't really see them as being in conflict from an instruction perspective. Seems to me the balance you strike in each individual case is ultimately going to be determined by the preferences of the student, the preferences of the teacher and the time (and energy) available for instruction and practice.

[nleary9201]

27 - that is the number of pages devoted to golf instruction just this month in my new golf mag. That is only one magazine from one month. Next month we will get a new batch of 27 or more.  By the way lots of stuff this month about using the basics of the"baseball swing" to help your golf game.  There have been numerous posts about how the two don't coexist. Pages 137 - 140 and page 62. Im sure this will cause more debate ie the golf swing is so much more complex, etc. but this stuff is coming from "top 100" teachers.

I think golf has been slow to recognize that the golf swing is an athletic event. Woods is one of the first true athletes who is a pro golfer and untl recently has dominated the tour.  Before that so many pros were 5ft 7in, 160lbs. or they were 5ft. 10in and 215 (mostly in the gut). Not the body of a pro athlete.  I think the athletes will take over this sport in the next 10yrs. Access to the game has been a major sumbling block.  Golf is one of the few sports that (because of the handicap system) doesn't really reward you for getting better.  If I shave off 5 strokes this year it makes me feel better personally but I still need to give those strokes back to my opponent in matches because of handicap.  If you get better in say...basketball you play better and beat your opponent by more points.

[iacas]

Thank you for all 17 duplicate posts (18 in total). I had nothing better to do today, nleary.

It's clear you've made up your mind and have nothing to actually contribute to the discussion. You've got your talking points and you're sticking to them.

This thread is now closed. I may open it again if someone else wants to continue the discussion, but I also suggest they start a new thread that isn't called "Tommy Gainey - and Ray Romano - Blah Blah".

BTW, doesn't Tommy Gainey show that your entire premise is wrong? That there is no "one way" to get it done?