Shopping for Super Game Improvement( SGI) Irons

[max power]

Find any set of cavity-backed Mizunos in good shape.  MX-19, MX-20, MX-25, MX-200/300-any of them are plenty forgiving, feel great, and you won't quickly grow tired of them.

[Mr. Desmond]

The sole grind has a lot to do with the playability of the club -- but MPF doesn't measure it.

Something to consider.

[bradabco]

I would hit a bunch of different clubs, but be sure to pay close attention to Adams IdeaTech...

[erock9174]

Originally Posted by WUTiger

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Solid Post !!

[tweaky]

went back thru the listings to 2007 and didn't see my 770CFES although the 870Tis are in there.  surprised to see that they are "conventional".

[NEOHMark]

I just bought a set of Adams V3s (w/forged irons), but I would probably try to persuade you - a newer player - toward one of Adams' other hybrid sets with over-sized heads.  The V3s are actually fairly smallish in the head design (the hybrids especially), so a brand new player might struggle with heel and toe shots.  Their A7OS Max clubs lean more toward being SGI than the V3s IMHO.  They're also available in hybrids throughout the set (3h-9h plus PW), and are probably a good bit more forgiving.  Adams touts them as their 'maximum forgiveness' clubs:

http://www.adamsgolf.com/products/irons/a7OS_max.php

Just my $ 0.02

[DLWiser]

No one has said this yet but when I was shopping for SGI irons, I ended up walking out with Nike VR full cavity with the TT r300 high launch shafts. Extremely forgiving and nearly impossible not to get the ball in the air. They took my HC from the mid 20's all the way down to an 11. I have since switched to AP2 710's. I actually still have the irons for whatever reason. They're for sale now too!

[WUTiger]

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The sole grind has a lot to do with the playability of the club -- but MPF doesn't measure it.

Something to consider.

Good point. Sole grind can be expressed in two radius measurements: Heel to toe, and front-to-back. Also, some custom wedges have dynamic sole grind (a Cleveland term), which means metal is shaved away from the sole heel and toe area (called relief) to allow players to open up or close down the clubface more. Last time I looked, Vokey offered 7 basic sole grinds.

I would suggest that dynamic sole grind affects playability in terms of versatility, and is mainly of interest in specialty wedges which some but not all golfers use. MPR is concerned with overall playability of irons on standard full shots.

If you're interested in different ways to measure golf clubs, see if you can find a copy of Maltby's 2005 book, The Maltby Playability Factor (MPF) Irons . A new version is coming out, and you can get the 2005 ed. for a dollar or two if you can find it. Book is 272 pages long, full color, and has all kinds of photos and engineering drawings of vintage through modern golf irons.

[Red_on_the_head]

Does anyone have any comments on the Dynacraft Avatar series hybrid irons?

Full set 3-PW, AW, SW

I just bought the components and am hoping to put the set together sometime in the next week or two.