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Originally Posted by iacas

No, but Butch Harmon doesn't actually do anything to change anyone's swings. They come out looking almost exactly the same as they did before. Butch is very much an "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" and the problem comes in when he thinks a swing that got someone to the PGA Tour ain't broke. He makes the tiniest of tweaks and just tries to talk up his players so they're confident.

Phil's swing looks no different now than before, really. Subtle changes, but he's still all over the map more than he probably could have been with a coach that would make actual changes.

It works for Butch, but not all the time... people leave him when they get stuck because Butch either can't or won't make changes to help them.



You are absolutely correct. Look no further than Natalie Gulbis. When she joined the LPGA back in 2002, people said she needed a complete rebuild or she'd hurt her back eventually with that dipsy-doodle corkscrew action. Well, she went to Harmon and he just suggested subtle tweaks, she had a few good years in a row and then low and behold, she hurt her back. Since then they've talked about fixing her swing to take pressure off the back, but it's just the S.O.S.

My Tools of Ignorance:

Driver: Ping I20 9.5*
Woods/Hybrids: Cobra AMP 3W and 3 HY

Irons: Cobra AMP 4-GW

Wedges: Callaway Forged Copper 56* and 60*

Putters: Scotty Cameron  35" (Several of the flow neck blade variety)

Ball: Bridgestone B330-RX and Srixon Z-Star

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