Charl Schwartzel - you've just lost me as a fan

[turtleback]

Originally Posted by inthehole

can you blame him for using the rules to his advantage ?         Comon - at that level, if it's within the rulebook, he simply did what the official allowed.     Bottom line, they're not exactly playing loser buys dinner out there...stakes are high

But that is exactly the question - was it within the rulebook?  Or did he claim there was interference when there wasn't any.  The is a question of fact, not a question of what the rule book says.  IFthere was interference then he is entitled to relief.  IF there was no interference he was not entitled to relief.  So the question isn't what the rulebook says it is WAS there interference?.

It seemed pretty clear that Charl and the rules official came down on opposite sides of that fact.

[sacm3bill]

Originally Posted by CuppedTin

Who said rules officials were infallible...

You did, when you called me ignorant for suggesting that they are no less susceptible than anyone else to being manipulated or bullied.

Originally Posted by CuppedTin

...you might be better off posting somewhere else for awhile because you are in an uphill battle.

With you perhaps - but if you were to read the entire thread you might see that you're in the minority on this. You'd also see some valid arguments that might sway your opinion.

Originally Posted by CuppedTin

You do realize that the rules official and Schwartzel were both within their rights to do what they did.

Whether Charl acted within his "rights" is irrelevant if he lied or was disingenuous in order to exercise those rights. Again, if you read the entire thread you'll see points like that have been made numerous times already.

Btw, I don't have quite as much of an issue with the official - he's on the spot and I can understand how it would be difficult for him to say "Look Charl, I'm really having a hard time seeing where the interference is".  But I do think other ROs might not have granted Charl relief.

Originally Posted by CuppedTin

I can't believe you are even still responding...

Well, it's mostly to defend myself  from allegations of ignorance, but if you're really finished with this thread then hopefully I won't have to do that any more.