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Yes because smoking is the only possible method to get nicotine in your system...........  Some people just don't think.



Who are you saying 'just doesn't think'?

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Originally Posted by Spyder

There's many people who have had cancer, have cancer, or will have cancer without ever smoking or inhaling cigarette smoke. I do believe George Burns did just fine on his cigar, cigarette, brandy and bacon diet. If you think he's the only one to do so, or some miracle case, you're diluted. Take your propaganda elsewhere.

As a non smoker, I agreed with what you said up until this point.

One of the regulars in my Saturday group smokes and although I detest the habit, I can't really say it bothers me in a non confined space, but thank goodness it is now banned in pubs and restaurants here!

Regarding the bit I snipped above, for every George Burns there are  thousands of people who died 30 years before they could have.

For an argument that you presented well in the bulk of your post, I thought it was a pretty weak example.

I HATE smoking, but if I was playing golf with you, if you asked if I minded if you smoked I would almost be embarrassed if you asked me - I would say no problem, smoke away.

On the other hand, if you teed up with strangers and asked the same question and someone said they DO mind, wouldn't it be uncomfortable for the rest of te round?

Given that it's legal, I don't really think you should ask. Inside it's different.

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I despise chewing gum.  Think it is the single worst consumer product on the market.

Originally Posted by Kieran123

Don;t stop there. Ban chewing gum. Have you seen some of the footpaths?


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Originally Posted by Yukari

Or sunflower seeds!  I hate those things on the green.  Not always, but just about once in a while, some clown eats sunflower seeds and spits out the shells on the green.

But seriously, some courses have banned them in CA and CO due to fire hazard.





Originally Posted by RyderJ

This is actually quite annoying as well. Has anyone ever tried to clear a path through sunflower seeds? It's a pain in the arse.



Not to mention that I refuse to touch something that someone else has just spit out.  No way of telling where that mouth has been.  My father-in-law's course has banned sunflower seeds from the course.  It's a small semi-private 9 hole course, and they take the ban seriously.

In Colorado you can't smoke in  bars any more than any other public place.  I'm a long time ex-smoker (quit in the late 70's), and I avoid any tobacco smoke like it was poison gas.  I know smokers who smell like an old ashtray if you get within 10 feet of them.  I know others who never seem to get that odor.

I truly deplore the trend of smoking cigars on the golf course.  Cigar smokers don't seem to care that most us actually prefer the air to smell like green, growing things.  I can smell a cigar even when it's 100 yards upwind from me.  I shouldn't have to live with that every time I want to play golf.  Most of those guys would never even think of lighting up one of those foul stogies in their own back yards and pissing off their wives and neighbors, but they're puffing away the moment they get to the course.  Why do they think that golfers are bothered less than anyone else?

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It's hard to know what will be any single golfer's pet peeve.

Originally Posted by Fourputt

Sounds to me like someone needs to learn to deal with distractions.  If you can only play under perfectly controlled conditions, then you play under far different circumstances than I have all my life. . . snip . . . . Deal with it.



Originally Posted by Fourputt

Why do they think that golfers are bothered less than anyone else?



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I have never seen someone smoking during a marathon or the Tour de France ... don't see why it should improve performance ... it will probably decrease performance in those that do smoke, but so will not eating or drinking ...

I am however astounded by the government rules enforced on US Citizens .. rather odd for a country that thinks the rest of the world are a bunch of socialists and commies ...

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I have never seen someone smoking during a marathon or the Tour de France ... don't see why it should improve performance ... it will probably decrease performance in those that do smoke, but so will not eating or drinking ...

I am however astounded by the government rules enforced on US Citizens .. rather odd for a country that thinks the rest of the world are a bunch of socialists and commies ...

It has to do with personal freedoms, not political philosophy. Anyone is free to smoke as long as that smoke doesn't infringe on anyone else's freedom to breathe clean air. Indoors that can be difficult and costly to control, so it's generally easier to just ban smoking in buildings and businesses open to the public, and the ban also extends to restaurants which have outdoor seating areas. It's probably taking it a bit far to ban smoking on golf courses, but then California's reputation for over-reacting is legendary.

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