How good are hybrids, really?

[sebsmash]

I think hybrids make the game a lot easier, from 190-215 out I feel a lot more confident Pulling my hybrid than their iron counterparts. I also love the sound my hybrid makes when it's hit solidly

[iacas]

Originally Posted by Mattplusness

No, I'm just not some middle aged washed up used to be athlete.

No, you're a guy who struggles to break 90. You were responding to a guy who has half your handicap and who is probably younger.

What's gotten in to you lately, chicken-nugget-in-jeans?

[Infamous 273]

i've been debating on a 17* hybrid vs a 5W to fill my 3W/3i gap; i'm currently using an old slazenger hybrid that gives me about 10 yards more kick than my 3i.  i prefer 3 and 4 irons for distance gap control purposes, and honestly, the irons i use (i15) have just enough offset in the long irons to get the ball going in the air.

[rwfastrax]

My 19 degree hybrid is invaluable to me. It's lessened the need for my 5 wood to the point that I could remove that and put a 4i back in my bag which really comes in handy.

[newtogolf]

You have to explain this one, never heard that expression ; )

Originally Posted by iacas

...chicken-nugget-in-jeans?

[Golfingdad]

Originally Posted by newtogolf

You have to explain this one, never heard that expression ; )

LOL.  It's not an expression (well not one I've heard) ... he's talking about his goofy avatar.  (And all this time I thought it was a deformed potato in jeans!)  Whoops.

[newtogolf]

Thanks, I had no idea what was in his pants (avatar) and was a little scared to look at a bigger image of it.

Originally Posted by Golfingdad

LOL.  It's not an expression (well not one I've heard) ... he's talking about his goofy avatar.  (And all this time I thought it was a deformed potato in jeans!)  Whoops.

[Doodaddy]

I also cannot hit a hybrid for the life of me. Ever.

I'm relatively inconsistent all through my bag, but I can at least make good shots most of the time with irons/wedges/drivers. However, if I pull out a hybrid, my swing falls apart. I literally do not understand it. I went to the range yesterday and hit two buckets of balls. I started with my 6 and was hitting consistently beautiful shots. Moved to my 4i, lost some consistency, but I was making contact. I moved to my 3H and literally fell apart. The ball hooked and was wide left to begin with, all at about 3 feet off the ground. I don't know if it's weight distribution or just my mind, but my swing really fell apart. Topping the ball, hitting off the hosel, bluntly hitting the ground in front of the ball, missing the ball entirely. This was identical with my 4H too. After that, I never came back together. :(

And I had a new driver to test out!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[newtogolf]

Take video of your swing with the irons and hybrid.  I noticed that with my irons (even long irons) I was maintaining a steady head and had minimal hip movement but with my hybrids I had a tendency to sway back on the backswing, causing my head to move as well, which would put me in inconsistent positions on my downswing and I'd see the same results as you described.

I don't know if it's the longer club length, the graphite shaft or larger head but something was causing my brain to change my regular backswing.

Originally Posted by Doodaddy

I also cannot hit a hybrid for the life of me. Ever.

I'm relatively inconsistent all through my bag, but I can at least make good shots most of the time with irons/wedges/drivers. However, if I pull out a hybrid, my swing falls apart. I literally do not understand it. I went to the range yesterday and hit two buckets of balls. I started with my 6 and was hitting consistently beautiful shots. Moved to my 4i, lost some consistency, but I was making contact. I moved to my 3H and literally fell apart. The ball hooked and was wide left to begin with, all at about 3 feet off the ground. I don't know if it's weight distribution or just my mind, but my swing really fell apart. Topping the ball, hitting off the hosel, bluntly hitting the ground in front of the ball, missing the ball entirely. This was identical with my 4H too. After that, I never came back together. :(

And I had a new driver to test out!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Mattplusness]

Originally Posted by iacas

No, you're a guy who struggles to break 90. You were responding to a guy who has half your handicap and who is probably younger.

What's gotten in to you lately, chicken-nugget-in-jeans?

I routinely shoot in the 80s.

Thanks.

[Doodaddy]

Originally Posted by newtogolf

Take video of your swing with the irons and hybrid.  I noticed that with my irons (even long irons) I was maintaining a steady head and had minimal hip movement but with my hybrids I had a tendency to sway back on the backswing, causing my head to move as well, which would put me in inconsistent positions on my downswing and I'd see the same results as you described.

I don't know if it's the longer club length, the graphite shaft or larger head but something was causing my brain to change my regular backswing.

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Originally Posted by Doodaddy

I also cannot hit a hybrid for the life of me. Ever.

I'm relatively inconsistent all through my bag, but I can at least make good shots most of the time with irons/wedges/drivers. However, if I pull out a hybrid, my swing falls apart. I literally do not understand it. I went to the range yesterday and hit two buckets of balls. I started with my 6 and was hitting consistently beautiful shots. Moved to my 4i, lost some consistency, but I was making contact. I moved to my 3H and literally fell apart. The ball hooked and was wide left to begin with, all at about 3 feet off the ground. I don't know if it's weight distribution or just my mind, but my swing really fell apart. Topping the ball, hitting off the hosel, bluntly hitting the ground in front of the ball, missing the ball entirely. This was identical with my 4H too. After that, I never came back together. :(

And I had a new driver to test out!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I've considered videoing myself and posting it here, but I don't have much confidence in my swing that I am consistent enough for be able to be critiqued. I'm worried that the swing I post may only happen X% of the time and adjusting based on something I struggle repeating. Though, I may do that this weekend. hmmm

[newtogolf]

You don't even have to post it here if you're uncomfortable, just review it on your own and look to see if your iron swing is different from your hybrid.  Most of the guys here are really helpful and will provide good feedback on things you could work on.

Originally Posted by Doodaddy

I've considered videoing myself and posting it here, but I don't have much confidence in my swing that I am consistent enough for be able to be critiqued. I'm worried that the swing I post may only happen X% of the time and adjusting based on something I struggle repeating. Though, I may do that this weekend. hmmm

[tiger187126]

Originally Posted by Doodaddy

I've considered videoing myself and posting it here, but I don't have much confidence in my swing that I am consistent enough for be able to be critiqued. I'm worried that the swing I post may only happen X% of the time and adjusting based on something I struggle repeating. Though, I may do that this weekend. hmmm

i posted my swing which is a terrible scourge to all those who witness. chances are you'll have at least one part of your swing that is consistently wrong, and once you start working on that you'll notice other things that are going bad.

my thing with my hybrid is how close i stand to it determines (for me) how i am going to hit it. if i stand close i hit a shot that lands soft and if i back off of it some i can hit a low burner that rolls forever. i also give myself some space from the ball if i'm trying to work it right, but get closer if i want a little draw.

either way, play with your alignment a little and see if there's a space between you and the ball that helps you hit it better.

[Doodaddy]

Originally Posted by newtogolf

You don't even have to post it here if you're uncomfortable, just review it on your own and look to see if your iron swing is different from your hybrid.  Most of the guys here are really helpful and will provide good feedback on things you could work on.

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Originally Posted by Doodaddy

I've considered videoing myself and posting it here, but I don't have much confidence in my swing that I am consistent enough for be able to be critiqued. I'm worried that the swing I post may only happen X% of the time and adjusting based on something I struggle repeating. Though, I may do that this weekend. hmmm

Oh no, it's not an uncomfortable thing. I know I'm not great and I've never made a claim here that I am, so I know you guys don't think I am either. Sure it's embarrassing, but it's a proactive attempt at bettering it.

My concerns were only about the effectiveness of the input due to my inability to replicate my swing in the first place.

[iacas]

Originally Posted by Mattplusness

I routinely shoot in the 80s.

Thanks.

Then your handicap index is wrong or you play really, really easy courses. (15.1 + 72.0 = your ten best of your last 20 rounds result in 87s on courses with 113 slope. You could be a 15.1 you shoot 90s and 91s on a course which was rated 71.1 with a slope of 136. And that's close enough that you could be said to "struggle" to break 90 since in that scenario you break 90 only 25% of the time. Anyway, not really a comment on you, just justifying my comments with a quick math exercise. I like math. :D)

The point jshots was making before your weird post is that if you can't hit a hybrid, you likely can't hit much of anything else (say, a 4-iron or something), either.

[RonTheSavage]

No way I could play the game without my hybrid in my bag. I will admit I tried a few different brands before I settled with the one I have now. Im a Nike guy but I've owned Mashie's, Adams Idea Tech V3s, and Ping g15s. All very good to great hybrids, but I would quit the game without my VR_S 3 hybrid. No way on earth Im ever even considering swinging a 3 iron from the rough 200 yards out going for the green. Im not saying that shot becomes easy with a hybrid, just that it's not an absurb thought any longer LOL.

[LovinItAll]

Then your handicap index is wrong or you play really, really easy courses. :-D  (15.1 + 72.0 = your ten best of your last 20 rounds result in 87s on courses with 113 slope. You could be a 15.1 you shoot 90s and 91s on a course which was rated 71.1 with a slope of 136. And that's close enough that you could be said to "struggle" to break 90 since in that scenario you break 90 only 25% of the time. Anyway, not really a comment on you, just justifying my comments with a quick math exercise. I like math. :D) The point jshots was making before your weird post is that if you can't hit a hybrid, you likely can't hit much of anything else (say, a 4-iron or something), either.

Guy could be playing from the whites and be breaking 90 virtually every time out.

[Doodaddy]

Originally Posted by RonTheSavage

No way I could play the game without my hybrid in my bag. I will admit I tried a few different brands before I settled with the one I have now. Im a Nike guy but I've owned Mashie's, Adams Idea Tech V3s, and Ping g15s. All very good to great hybrids, but I would quit the game without my VR_S 3 hybrid. No way on earth Im ever even considering swinging a 3 iron from the rough 200 yards out going for the green. Im not saying that shot becomes easy with a hybrid, just that it's not an absurb thought any longer LOL.

Did you ever swing the VR 3H before the VR_S?